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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 20:15:45
Message-Id: 5782ACE2.5030907@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole by Philip Webb
1 On 10/07/2016 21:19, Philip Webb wrote:
2 > 160711 konsolebox wrote:
3 >> On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 3:44 AM, Philip Webb <purslow@××××××××.net> wrote:
4 >>> What has happened to Konsole:4/4.14 ?
5 >>> root:508 ~> eix konsole
6 >>> [U?] kde-apps/konsole
7 >>> Available versions: (5) 15.12.3 ~16.04.2 {X debug +handbook test}
8 >>> Installed versions: 4.14.3(4/4.14)^t([2015-10-07 13:08:42])(handbook -aqua -debug -minimal -test)
9 >>> Description: KDE's terminal emulator
10 >>> Are we going to be forced to install the whole of KDE 5
11 >>> if we want to go on using some very useful KDE apps ?
12 >> It was removed 17 days ago. No reason was mentioned.
13 >> https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo/commit/581d3a57fb642a5b567b3b6fc6e80ef9daf38f6f
14 >
15 > Oh dear ! -- another bug to open (grimace) ?
16 >
17 > 'emerge konsole' wants to install 107 pkgs, incl 87 new ones ;
18 > among them are sound software + Ruby.
19 >
20 > Is this what KDE officialdom now requires or can Gentoo work around it ?
21 > My understanding was that KDE is now a 'software collection',
22 > which allows users to pick whichever pieces they prefer : has that changed ?
23 >
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26 I really can't give proper answer to your whinge-rant without at least
27 the output of emerge with -t
28
29 The bulk of those packages are probably kde frameworks and plasma. It's
30 hard to run konsole-5 without them. You're getting sound because that's
31 quite a normal to put on a desktop, and ruby because some package in
32 world is a ruby script. And the packages are lots of small ones, very
33 few huge monolithic packages left in Gentoo's KDE ebuilds. And yes, you
34 very much CAN pick and choose kde-apps individually, but you don't get
35 to choose if you want to install the deps or not
36
37 Konsole:4 is moved to kde-sunset, enable that overlay and get things
38 back as they were 17 days ago