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On March 17, 2012 at 8:48 PM Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> On 17/03/12 13:53, Alan Mackenzie wrote: |
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> > Hello, Nikos. |
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> > On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 08:25:48AM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: |
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> >>> Happy Computer Users, systemd is on your horizon. |
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> >> No, we don't. I hope systemd arrives soon. It's the best init system |
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> >> ever saw. |
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> > What's so good about it? What will it do for me? |
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> > I have this horrible sneaking suspicion that it will be more |
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complicated |
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> > than /sbin/init + OpenRC, just like udev + initramfs is more |
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complicated |
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> > than udev, and CUPS is more complicated than classical lpr. |
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> > Why do you find it so good? |
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> No idea. I only posted this because the OP didn't say what's bad about |
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> systemd :-) I really don't know I should care whether my system runs |
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> OpenRC or systemd. |
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I'm the OP, and often I don't know how to express myself. |
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It is my understanding that systemd is going to force an initramfs on you |
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even if you only have / and no other partitions. (Could it be initrd and |
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not initramfs?) |
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I'm all for automounting a device when it's plugged in, if that's what the |
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user chooses. But for me, with my workstation, laptop, wife's PC and |
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daughter's laptop -- we just don't need or care for it. Seems a shame to be |
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using udev and then have to completely change your system when 181 comes |
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out, or freeze it at . |
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Therefore, we don't install anything to automount devices. We have lines |
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such as these in fstab: |
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UUID=6C5F-3742 /Libby-Vivitar vfat |
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noauto,users,rw,gid=100,dmask=0002,fmask=0113 0 0 |
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for those devices we own. When we get a new device, we add a new line. |
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We don't use a DE either, just Fluxbox. |
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The bottom line is that I don't like things being forced on me (hint, "get |
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the vaseline, they're on the way!") And I don't like upstream forcing such |
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nefarious changes on the distros. And for the Lennart fanboi, his coding is |
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so questionable that "Lennartware" has become derogatory slang. (Of course, |
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you already know that.) |
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