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From: Pandu Poluan <pandu@××××××.info>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:48:54
Message-Id: CAA2qdGWdHCOkFjWS94fgU2u0CWvzw+bL_hGgX_jo9hco5YH08A@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization by Dale
1 I think we also ought to contact Linus, to have some input on what the
2 forked-udev (vdev? gdev? nlpdev?) *shouldn't* be. Lest we tread the same
3 path that led to him calling udev 'stupid'.
4
5 Just my 2 cents. Probably worthless :-|
6
7 Rgds,
8 --
9 On Nov 13, 2012 4:26 PM, "Dale" <rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote:
10
11 > Michael Hampicke wrote:
12 > > Am 13.11.2012 04:20, schrieb Dale:
13 > >>
14 > >> -------- Original Message --------
15 > >> Subject: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization
16 > >> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:40:53 -0500
17 > >> From: Richard Yao <ryao@g.o>
18 > >> Reply-To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
19 > >> To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
20 > >>
21 > >>
22 > >> Richard Yao wrote:
23 > >>
24 > >>> Dear Everyone,
25 > >>>
26 > >>> It is no secret that many of us are unhappy with the direction that
27 > udev
28 > >>> has taken under the leadership of the systemd developers. That includes
29 > >>> Linus Torvalds, who is 'leery of the fact that the udev maintenance
30 > >>> seems to have gone into some "crazy mode" where they have made changes
31 > >>> that were known to be problematic, and are pure and utter stupidity.'
32 > >>>
33 > >>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/2/505
34 > >>>
35 > >>> After speaking with several other Gentoo developers that share Linus'
36 > >>> concerns, I have decided to form a team to fork udev. Our plan is to
37 > >>> eliminate the separate /usr requirement from our fork, among other
38 > >>> things. We will announce the project later this week.
39 > >>>
40 > >>> I understand that the council is scheduled to vote on a topic related
41 > to
42 > >>> udev stabilization. Would it be possible to delay the vote for another
43 > >>> month so that we have time to get organized?
44 > >>>
45 > >>> Yours truly,
46 > >>> Richard Yao
47 > >>>
48 > >> Well, it appears we have someone willing to fork udev. Yeppie !! Me,
49 > I'm looking forward to seeing how this works and giving it a test run when
50 > it gets ready. Since it is a fork, shouldn't be to long, I hope.
51 > >>
52 > >> I wonder what they will name it tho.
53 > >>
54 > >> Dale
55 > >>
56 > >> :-) :-)
57 > >>
58 > > What about gdev (gentoo dev) :)
59 > >
60 > >
61 >
62 > That could work but since Linus thinks it is stupid the way udev is
63 > headed, I was thinking about smartdev. That would be the opposite of
64 > stupiddev I guess. lol
65 >
66 > I don't care what the name is, I just hope it works out not only for
67 > Gentoo but for other distros that don't like the direction udev is going.
68 >
69 > Thanks to Richard and everyone else who is going to be working on this.
70 >
71 > Dale
72 >
73 > :-) :-)
74 >
75 > --
76 > I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or
77 > how you interpreted my words!
78 >
79 >
80 >