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From: Volker Armin Hemmann <volker.armin.hemmann@××××××××××××.de>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-user] h
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:11:02
Message-Id: 200806270010.20819.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] My last words on cryptology and cryptography. by Alan McKinnon
1 On Donnerstag, 26. Juni 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote:
2 > On Thursday 26 June 2008, Sebastian Wiesner wrote:
3 > > Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com> at Thursday 26 June 2008,
4 > > 10:54:43
5 > >
6 > > > The calculation is quite simple - measure how quickly a specific
7 > > > computer can match keys. Divide this into the size of the keyspace.
8 > > > The average time to brute force a key is half that value. AFAIK
9 > > > this still averages out at enormous numbers of years, even at
10 > > > insane calculation rates like what RoadRunner can achieve.
11 > >
12 > > According to Wikipedia RoadRunner is designed for 1.7 petaflops in
13 > > peak. Assuming for the sake of simplicity, that decryption can be
14 > > performed within a single flop:
15 > >
16 > > (2^256) / (1.7 * 10^15) / 2 ~= 3.5 * 10^61
17 > >
18 > > In years:
19 > >
20 > > 3.5 * 10^61 / 3600 / 24 / 356 ~= 10^54
21 > >
22 > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems impossible to me, to reduce
23 > > this get the required amount somewhere near to the life time of a
24 > > human being ;)
25 >
26 > Even with your ultra-liberal assumptions, it still comes out to:
27 >
28 > 1000000000000000000000000000000000000
29 >
30 > times longer than the entire universe is believed to have existed thus
31 > far (14 billion years). That is an unbelievable stupendously long
32 > period of time. Yeah, I'd agree that brute force is utterly unfeasible
33 > as a vector of attack. Not even the almighty NSA could ever pull that
34 > one off as there simply aren't enough atoms in the universe to make a
35 > supercomputer big enough.
36 >
37 > Numbers don't lie.
38
39 and this is why nobody uses brute force.
40
41 There a better ways to crack keys. NSA has tons of experts in mathematics and
42 cryptoanalysis. Plus very sophisticated hardware. I am sure for most ciphers
43 they use something much more efficient than stupid brute force.
44
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Re: [gentoo-user] h "Sebastian Günther" <samson@××××××××××××××××.de>
Re: [gentoo-user] h Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>