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From: Jarry <mr.jarry@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] No mailer for Gentoo???
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2013 16:25:37
Message-Id: 522A0152.2020509@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] No mailer for Gentoo??? by "Canek Peláez Valdés"
1 On 06-Sep-13 18:14, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
2 > On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Jarry <mr.jarry@×××××.com> wrote:
3 >> On 06-Sep-13 17:32, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
4 >>>
5 >>> On 09/06/2013 11:23 AM, Jarry wrote:
6 >>>>>
7 >>>>>
8 >>>>> It wasn't part of @system before, you just removed the thing that pulled
9 >>>>> it in.
10 >>>>
11 >>>>
12 >>>> No I did not. mail-mta/ssmtp was part of stage3. And I did not
13 >>>> remove now any "thing" that pulled it in. All I did was
14 >>>> "emerge --ask --update --deep --newuse world".
15 >>>>
16 >>>> As a result, python-exec, python-argparse and libxml2 were
17 >>>> reinstalled and automake-wrapper, gtk-doc-am, eselect and
18 >>>> linux-header updated. Nothing else.
19 >>>>
20 >>>> After that I did "emerge --depclean" and the above mentioned
21 >>>> packages were suddenly removed...
22 >>>>
23 >>>
24 >>> It could be that a package's deps were updated to no longer include
25 >>> virtual/mta. But it was never part of @system, you can check for yourself:
26 >>>
27 >>>
28 >>> http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/profiles/base/packages?view=log
29 >>
30 >>
31 >> Then something got broken because I have packages installed
32 >> that need mailer (i.e. app-admin/monit or sys-fs/mdadm are
33 >> configured to send emails). And these packages do not have
34 >> "mail" use-flag, because their maintainers apparently expect
35 >> standard *nix mailer (/usr/bin/sendmail) exists on the system...
36 >>
37 >> So now I have "stable" system, updated to the latest level,
38 >> where a lot of things suddenly do not work. This should *never*
39 >> happen! If it was some package's dep that caused it, it's clear
40 >> this change was premature...
41 >
42 > I think is a bug in the packages. In my system the only package that
43 > pulls vitual/mta (and therefore ssmtp) is vixie-cron.
44
45 That is strange. I have sys-process/vixie-cron-4.1-r12 and yet
46 revdep-rebuild does not want to pull virtual/mta. But It should,
47 as cron can be configured to send emails too.
48
49 As I wrote: there are *many* packages that expect standard
50 *nix mailer exists! If it does not, a lot of packages must
51 be fixed to include mailer as dependency.
52
53 Jarry
54
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Re: [gentoo-user] No mailer for Gentoo??? "Canek Peláez Valdés" <caneko@×××××.com>