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From: Philip Webb <purslow@××××××××.net>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] new machine : a lot clearer
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 10:53:42
Message-Id: YyhKLQxWn0L2fFjA@ca.inter.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] new machine : on-going frustration by Mark Knecht
1 220915 Mark Knecht wrote:
2 > I don't think PCIe 4.0 would, in this sort of machine,
3 > have much to do with compile times.
4 > This level of machine has an NVMe flash drive for the system disk.
5 > My machine has 2 x 1 TB NVMe SSDs and no mechanical drives.
6
7 Thanks lots : that's the crucial advice I was looking for.
8
9 I've reviewed what's available at local stores again (Downtown is closest) :
10
11 CPU + Mobo : available 220914
12 ( D downtown M midtown N NYork S Scarboro d delivery ; o openbox ) :
13
14 CPU : must incl graphix + cooler
15
16 AMD :
17
18 (1) CPAMD00130 : Ryzen 5 : 5600G : $ 187 (350)
19 6-Core/12-Thread : 7 nm : PCIe 3.0
20 Socket AM4 : 3.9 GHz , boost 4.4 GHz
21 Radeon Graphics : Wraith Stealth Cooler : 65 W
22 Available 220915 : D 5 M 5 N 10 S 7 d y
23
24 (2) CPAMD00141 : Ryzen 5 : 4600G : $ 200
25 6-Core/12-Thread : 7 nm : PCIe ? (sb 3.0)
26 Socket AM4 : 3.7 GHz , boost 4.2 GHz
27 Radeon Graphics : Wraith Stealth Cooler : 65 W
28 Available 220915 : D 1 M - N 1 S - d y
29
30 (3) CPAMD00131 : Ryzen 7 : 5700G : $ 310 (470) : *** looks best ***
31 8-Core/16-Thread : 7 nm : PCIe 3.0
32 Socket AM4 : 3.8 GHz , boost 4.6 GHz
33 Radeon Graphics : Wraith Stealth cooler : 65 W
34 Available 220915 : D 1 M 1 N 1 S 1 d y
35
36 Intel : lowest price w 8 cores ;
37 doesn't look competitive : 14 nm ; no fan ; $ 110 > AMD 00131 ;
38 installation challenges : Intel pins are on the mobo, so damage easier ;
39 it used to be more of a challenge to fit the fan on the CPU w Intel.
40
41 (1) CPINT00159 : Intel Core i9-11900K : $ 420 (600) : *** not attractive ***
42 8-Core/16-Thread : 14 nm : Socket LGA 1200
43 (Intel 500 + select 400 Series) Unlocked
44 3.5 GHz , turbo 5.3 GHz : 11th
45 UHD Graphics 750 : 125 W : no cooler ?
46 Available 220919 : D 2 M 1 N - S - d y
47
48 Mobo: AMD : *** not clear there's much difference ***
49
50 (1) MBGIG00135 : Gigabyte : X570 AORUS ELITE : $ 220 (300)
51 12+2 Phase Digital VRM with DrMOS
52 Advanced Thermal Design with Enlarge Heatsink
53 Dual PCIe 4.0 M.2 w Single Thermal Guard
54 Intel GbE LAN w cFosSpeed, Front USB Type-C, RGB Fusion 2.0
55 Available 220914 : D 3 M 4 N 6 S 3 d y
56
57 (2) MBGIG00261 : Gigabyte : X570S AORUS ELITE : $ 250 (330)
58 AX AMD X570 DDR4
59 Wi-Fi 6E : Bluetooth
60 PCIe 4.0 M.2 : USB 3.2 : ATX
61 Available 220914 : D 4 M 2 N 9 S 2 d y
62
63 (3) MBGIG00260 : Gigabyte : X570S AORUS PRO : $ 280 (390)
64 AX Socket AM4 AMD X570 DDR4
65 Wi-Fi 6 Bluetooth
66 PCIe 4.0 M.2 : USB 3.2 : ATX
67 Available 220914 : D 2 M 2 N 5 S 1 d y
68
69 (4) MBGIG00242 : Gigabyte : X570S AERO G : $ 300 (470)
70 AMD X570 : 4 x DDR4 DIMM : 128 GB
71 Intel Wi-Fi 6E
72 PCIe 4.0 : USB Type-C M.2
73 Available 220914 : D 2 M 1 N 1 S 1 d y
74
75 -- end of review --
76
77 Intel seems to offer inferior product for higher price : comparison only.
78
79 AMD : I want 8 cores with 16 threads.
80 I want graphics + cooling included with the CPU.
81 PCIe 3.0 is adequate for what I do : with 32 GB memory
82 everything sb compilable there with no need to use the SSD ;
83 ANB5 (my present machine) has DDR3, so ANB6's DDR4 wb faster.
84 Price differences aren't important in themselves among these choices.
85 There is free WiFi where I live, tho' landline mb better for security.
86
87 Thanks for the advice so far : further comments are very welcome.
88
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