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From: lee <lee@××××××××.de>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New box
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 13:45:53
Message-Id: 87a8bdo7sg.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de
In Reply to: [gentoo-user] New box by thelma@sys-concept.com
1 thelma@×××××××××××.com writes:
2
3 > I'm putting a new system, it will be running mainly, VirtualBox,
4 > Asterisk, Hylafax etc. (nothing graphic intensive).
5 >
6 > - IN WIN BL631 Low Profile Micro ATX Case w/ 300W Power Supply,
7 > - AMD FX-8350 Processor 4.0GHz w/ 16MB Cache
8 > - Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 w/ DDR3, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan
9 > - Kingston HyperX Fury 16GB DDR3-1866MHz CL10 Dual Channel Kit
10 > - Samsung 850 EVO Series mSATA Solid State Drive, 1TB
11 > - Asus GeForce GT 720 Silent CSM, 2GB, PCI-E w/ D-Sub VGA, DVI, HDMI
12 >
13 > Will I have any problems installing Gentoo on this configuration, eg.
14 > with Video Card etc.?
15 > Do I need more RAM?
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17 If you want a rock solid machine with lots of cores and RAM and very
18 capable of powering VMs, the HP Z800 is worthwhile to check out.
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20 You can get them for good prices here from resellers/ebay, and they are
21 IMO currently the best you can get for your money if you want something
22 like that. Technology has moved on a bit, but you'd spend about twice
23 the money if you buy something new that offers comparable overall
24 performance. The Z820s are still rather pricey.
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26 "Top speed" may be higher with the AMD, but I think it will have a hard
27 time beating the overall performance of 2 Xeons with 6x2 cores each and
28 48GB RAM (or whatever configuration you get) when you load it with VMs
29 and start compiling stuff.
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31 IF that's an issue for you: I've measured the power consumption of a
32 Z800 with two X5675, 48GB RAM and a GTX770: 130W at idle, which I think
33 is amazing. It can reach about 600W when compiling, with the graphics
34 card working hard and 6 spinning 3.5" disks.
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36 There are no issues with temperatures or anything, and they are pretty
37 quiet.
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39 The power supplies they have are impressive. I've seen the lights go
40 out for like half a second or so, and I expected the machines to go
41 down, but they kept running as if nothing happened.
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43 You can run Gentoo, Debian and Fedora on them. If you run Xen on it,
44 limit cstates to 1 or you may see random freezes.
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46 I wouldn't change mine for anything less than a Z820. I used to build
47 my machines from parts, and I quit doing that because it isn't
48 worthwhile when you can just get a Z800 which offers more for half the
49 money.
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52 Other than that, as others have already said, you're probably better off
53 with at least 32GB and a better PSU. I also don't store data or a
54 system on a single disk with no redundancy, except for backups.
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56 (A Z800 has four 3.5" bays, and you can get adapters for 2.5" disks that
57 plug in. You could use 2x72GB 2.5" 15k SAS disks which you can get very
58 cheaply for the system, put everything else on your SSD and use a 3.5"
59 SATA disk for backups.)

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