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From: Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@××××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Solved.Re: X/ati/amd/kde4/hal/evdev/??? problem
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:16:09
Message-Id: 200907160416.02219.volkerarmin@googlemail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Solved.Re: X/ati/amd/kde4/hal/evdev/??? problem by Keith Dart
1 On Donnerstag 16 Juli 2009, Keith Dart wrote:
2 > On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:56:57 +0200
3 >
4 > Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@××××××××××.com> wrote:
5 > > so very wrong.
6 >
7 > From the AMD driver web site:
8 >
9 > "32-Bit packages must be installed for 64-Bit Linux drivers to install
10 > or work. "
11
12 yes, but that does not mean 'strictly 32bit'. In fact, that part of the amd
13 website is wrong, as Bridgeman explained in the phoronix forum. The amd
14 drivers work perfectly fine in a pure 64bit environment.
15
16 http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10868&highlight=32-
17 Bit+packages+installed+64-Bit+Linux+drivers+install
18
19 >
20 > The ebuild also pulls in the app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-xlibs
21 > package.
22
23 because the maintainer believes a wrong website and not facts. Also you need
24 the 32bit emul stuff when you try to run 32bit apps - like a lot of people
25 still do or want to do. In a non-multilib environment those are not needed.
26 There is a bug open about this.
27
28 >
29 > Please explain.
30 >
31
32 you said 'strictly 32bit' which is absolutely and utterly wrong.
33
34
35
36 > > > The open-source x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati package works much
37 > > > better. If you don't really need the 3D acceleration I'd recommend
38 > > > you switch to that.
39 > >
40 > > except that they don't have working powermanagment, increasing energy
41 > > consumption (a lot) and noise (even more).
42 >
43 > I hadn't noticed that. I did notice a definite speed and
44 > stability improvement after switching to the open-source drivers. The
45 > ati-drivers also crashed my system occasionally.
46
47 106W with catalyst.
48 170W with open source drivers.
49
50 fan quiet with catalyst (not able to hear it) in KDE and most of the time
51 playing games.
52 fan extremely loud with open source drivers.
53
54 air warm (2 slot card) with catalyst.
55 air hot with open source drivers.
56
57 2d mostly acceptable with catalyst (I can live with the shortcomings since i
58 don't have problems with 'Tearing' or slow window resize with composite turned
59 on).
60 2d always acceptable with open source drivers.
61
62 3d very good with catalyst.
63 3d not existing with open source drivers.
64
65 The only crash I can see with 9.6 and 2.6.30:
66 if the monitor was sent into standby/off mode, turns back on and an app uses xv
67 to display video or a 3d game starts there is a high chance that the box might
68 lock up in the next couple of minutes.
69
70 Since I am at my box either almost all the time or turn it off, this isn't a
71 problem for me - it might be for other people.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Solved.Re: X/ati/amd/kde4/hal/evdev/??? problem Keith Dart <keith@×××××××××.biz>
[gentoo-user] Re: Solved.Re: X/ati/amd/kde4/hal/evdev/??? problem James <wireless@×××××××××××.com>