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On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Yuri K. Shatroff <yks-uno@××××××.ru> wrote: |
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> On 26.04.2013 19:41, Mark David Dumlao wrote: |
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>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Yuri K. Shatroff <yks-uno@××××××.ru> |
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>> wrote: |
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>>> In the end, I humbly believe it's up to me to judge what effect there is |
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>>> for |
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>>> me on my computers. |
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>> Yes, that's exactly the point. Scroll up and reread this thread, |
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>> though, and you'll get the impression that some complainers seem to |
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>> think that Lennart is breaking into their systems and magickally |
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>> installing his 175-year old software in them. What's this about 100% |
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>> of the users being "forced" to have pulseaudio in? |
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> Yes, being. |
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> I don't know if Lennart writes great code (doesn't seem like that though) |
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> but what I can see is that he never asks what people need. He forces his |
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> self-righteous software upon us as a sole alternative. Instead of first |
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> creating (at least talking over) protocols which are (no need to explain |
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> why) better, he creates a proggy which aims to be all-powerful all-solving |
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> (including adobe flash's bugs) and probably to conquer all the world. |
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> I don't know again. That's the impression. Maybe there's one who knows |
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> better. But AFAICT all (really) great software talks protocols and |
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> standards. In Lennart's works, I don't see any. |
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> And that said, yes, I'm being forced. Gradually it all goes for us all to |
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> have to have his works installed everywhere. Someone's justifying this by |
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> "the needs of 1% users", the other one by "the ease to maintain one library |
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> instead of a lot", the next one by it being brand new -- regardless. It's |
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> kinda mass psychosis. Whatever you say if not "it's great", you get: "oh, |
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> again you with your criticism of lennart"? "I have *** installed and it |
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> works, and you are kinda dumb yourself" etc. |
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> It doubtlessly greatly assists in inclining my point of view towards |
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> installing lennart's stuff, yeah. |
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You do realize that Lennart hasn't been the maintainer of PulseAudio |
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since *BEFORE* the 1.0 release? And that now it has in fact many |
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contributors, and they just released 3.0 in December and are getting |
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ready to release 4.0? And that systemd/udev has dozens of |
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contributors, from (basically) all the distributions, and that several |
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of them are kernel developers? |
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You may not like the *design* of the stuff, but you certainly can't |
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complaint about the *quality* of it. |
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You are not being forced to anything: in the worst case you can patch |
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all the programs you use, the code is out there. |
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Regards. |
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Canek Peláez Valdés |
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Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación |
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Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México |
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