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From: Hazen Valliant-Saunders <hazenvs@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ATI-Driver 9.6 support?
Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:22:10
Message-Id: d07a70780907030922p1856e9a1mc26902031dd3909f@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] ATI-Driver 9.6 support? by Volker Armin Hemmann
1 I was reffering to the fact that ATI has a history of support issues within
2 Linux.
3
4 As for "Understanding" all I know is emerge ati-drivers where my keywords
5 file contains all the nifty means to unmask the packages & dependencies I
6 need still results in an unusable X. (which is why it's been revered back to
7 it's previous configuration).
8
9 ATI still does not support Linux properly; My pal and his Nvida card works
10 with 2.6.29, it just means that if I want 3D on linux I'm better off with a
11 diffrent vendor and a card that works vs a cheap vendor and a card that I
12 have to fight with.
13
14 My point is this; ATI/AMD made a commitment to make Linux work but they are
15 behind the ball when it comes to driver updates and releases; If the kernel
16 get's a revision it should take two weeks to see the driver no longer and no
17 less; as a consumer It's not my job to "understand" or "care" about the
18 details, that price that i bought that card for included the engineering
19 required to "make it work", that's why these cards cost so much money; the
20 hardware itself is cheap the engineering is expensive. Also as a consumer
21 it's my job to use whichever OS I want. Hell they closed my ticket without
22 resolving my issue.
23
24 As for Gentoo, well I'll take my successes and failures where I may as I
25 understand that it's a community of "Voulenteers" that work diligently to
26 support a whole bunch of people that tend to complain loudly and act as
27 though they know everything about everything.
28
29 Realistically I'll just wait another two months and then mabye it will work,
30 mabye it won't, in the meantime i'll leave the bleeding edge to those
31 massochistic enough to enjoy it. Perhaps the Kernel Crew could hold off on
32 releases until driver support is adaquate? The real issue there is where is
33 the balance do you end up like Debain and only release every so many years?
34
35 In the meantime I'll test it every once in a while and when it fails I'll
36 state that it fails, when it works I'll quitely use it.
37
38 As for using ATI/AMD's installer it has never worked at all; (for me anyhow)
39 and I remember when I tried to get my 9800 working under Slackware and
40 Redhat I had simlar stale file issues, then again that was a few years ago
41 now, and every so often I try to get my card working in Gentoo and every so
42 often it fails. What this has to do with Stale files and packages and
43 placement of bad Xorg conf files means nothing to me. I just want my card
44 and it's nifty 3D accelleration to be used by Folding at home, I can use it
45 in windows if I ran it, I can't use it in Gentoo at the momennt, and that's
46 the point.
47
48 "Silence is golden".
49
50 Regards,
51 Hazen.
52
53 On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann <
54 volkerarmin@××××××××××.com> wrote:
55
56 > On Freitag 03 Juli 2009, Hazen Valliant-Saunders wrote:
57 > > <sarchasam>
58 > > No really the ATI installer does not work!? Go figure.
59 > > </sarchasam>
60 >
61 > you really do not understand. It is not a matter of 'does it work' or not.
62 > The
63 > installer dumps a couple of files into the system - and on a gentoo system
64 > in
65 > all the wrong places. This will result in trouble later. From not compiling
66 > packages to not working 3d acceleration because of some stale file
67 > somewhere
68 > hidden in the system .
69 >
70 >
71
72
73 --
74 Hazen Valliant-Saunders
75 IT/IS Consultant
76 (613) 355-5977

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Re: [gentoo-user] ATI-Driver 9.6 support? Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@××××××××××.com>