Gentoo Archives: gentoo-user

From: "J. Roeleveld" <joost@××××××××.org>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New Install
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 21:10:53
Message-Id: 96BA96E9-3729-44E2-8B77-AD28660BDCD8@antarean.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] New Install by Christopher Robinson
1 On September 24, 2016 10:43:58 PM GMT+02:00, Christopher Robinson <chrisrobinson@××××××××××.com> wrote:
2 >Funny how you used XXX when I SPECIFCALLY mentioned mentioned the LIVE
3 >DVD
4 >as opposed to the minimal install cd. That was the whole point which
5 >you missed in
6 >jumping to conclusions about my ignorance.
7
8
9 The path to be followed when installing Gentoo is the same, regardless of which media you use.
10 Only requirement is that the media is semi recent. Most people here prefer to use sysresccd as it contains a lot of usefull tools to make the first steps easy and as it's Gentoo based, most of the system already matches.
11
12 The path is explained and described in great detail in the handbook as already mentioned.
13
14 --
15 Joost
16
17
18 >--------------------------------------------
19 >On Sat, 9/24/16, Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk> wrote:
20 >
21 > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New Install
22 > To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
23 > Date: Saturday, September 24, 2016, 4:38 PM
24 >
25 > On Sat, 24 Sep 2016
26 > 20:31:13 +0000 (UTC), Christopher Robinson wrote:
27 >
28 > > You are giving a generic
29 > answer to what you see as a generic question.
30 > > I really can't  play 20 questions by
31 > repeating over until the light
32 > > comes
33 > on.
34 >
35 > I'm sorry, but
36 > "Can I install from disc XXX?" is a generic
37 > question.
38 >
39 > The more specific
40 > and detailed the question, the more specific and
41 > detailed the answers. But the response was
42 > given freely and it's entirely
43 > up to you
44 > what you do with it.
45 >
46 >
47 > --------------------------------------------
48 > > On Sat, 9/24/16, Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk>
49 > wrote:
50 > >
51 > >  Subject:
52 > Re: [gentoo-user] New Install
53 > >  To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
54 > >  Date: Saturday, September 24, 2016, 4:21
55 > PM
56 > > 
57 > >  On Sat, 24
58 > Sep 2016
59 > >  15:05:24 +0000 (UTC),
60 > Christopher Robinson wrote:
61 > > 
62 > >  > Honestly, your reply is 
63 > >  not helpful. I have read through the
64 > the
65 > >  > handbook and the directions
66 > there do not 
67 > >  match the screen
68 > results.
69 > > 
70 > > 
71 > You'd need to be more specific about
72 > >  that.
73 > > 
74 > >  > I
75 > >  > take
76 > offense at your arrogant tone in 
77 > > 
78 > reply to a beginners request for
79 > > 
80 > >  I wasn't trying to be offensive.
81 > > 
82 > >  > help.While
83 > those with 
84 > >  experience may find my
85 > request naive, I went to
86 > >  > the
87 > list for suggestions beyond the 
88 > > 
89 > handbook.Also, you confuse the two
90 > > 
91 > > 
92 > >  parts of my question in your
93 > smackdown.
94 > > 
95 > > 
96 > Firstly, it wasn't a smackdown. Secondly,
97 > >  you asked two separate
98 > >  questions. I only
99 > > 
100 > tried to answer one of them, which is why I quoted only
101 > >  one.
102 > > 
103 > >  As has
104 > >  been
105 > mentioned elsewhere, your problem was caused by missing
106 > >  a
107 > >  step. The point
108 > I was trying to make is
109 > >  that it is
110 > important to follow
111 > >  the handbook
112 > >  carefully, so the advice was to read it
113 > fully before
114 > >  attempting to follow it.
115 > Reading it and
116 > >  following it at the
117 > same time is
118 > >  asking for
119 > >  trouble.
120 > > 
121 > >  Experience has
122 > > 
123 > shown that a large proportion of new user install
124 > >  problems are caused by a failure to
125 > follow the
126 > >  handbook correctly.
127 > >  Sometimes this is caused
128 > >  by someone thinking they know better and
129 > taking
130 > >  a shortcut but more often it
131 > is simply a
132 > >  moaater of a mistake
133 > or
134 > >  misunderstanding
135 > >  somewhere.
136 > > 
137 > > 
138 > >  > Sorry 
139 > >  for the annoyance and
140 > >  > possibleviolation 
141 > >  of list protocol, but I expected a bit
142 > more support.
143 > >  >
144 > >  >     On 
145 > >  Saturday, September 24, 2016 9:47 AM,
146 > Neil Bothwick
147 > >  > <neil@××××××××××.uk> 
148 >
149 > >  wrote:
150 > >  >
151 >
152 > >  >  On Sat, 
153 > >  24 Sep 2016 12:13:00 +0000 (UTC),
154 > Christopher Robinson
155 > >  wrote:
156 > >  >   
157 > >  > > Also, 
158 > >  I read that it is possible to install
159 > Gentoo from the
160 > >  Live
161 > >  > > DVD.How do I do
162 > that?    
163 > >  >
164 > >  > You need to read 
165 > >  chapter 1 of the Gentoo handbook from
166 > start to finish,
167 > >  > then read it
168 > again. When you understand 
169 > >  what is
170 > going on, you then boot
171 > >  > from 
172 >
173 > >  the live DVD and follow the
174 > installation instructions fro
175 > >  the
176 > >  > handbook.
177 > > 
178 > >
179 > >  >   
180 > > 
181 > > 
182 > > 
183 > > 
184 > >  --
185 > >  Neil
186 > Bothwick
187 > > 
188 > >  I
189 > distinctly remember forgetting
190 > >  that.
191 > >
192 >
193 >
194 >
195 >
196 > --
197 > Neil Bothwick
198 >
199 > Never sleep with anyone crazier than
200 > yourself.
201
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204 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.