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On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 11:25 PM, J. <jyo.garcia@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> They say it's not a GNOME thing only, but born in the GNOME project, |
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> Quote from their FAQ: |
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> "Is Flatpak tied to GNOME? |
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> No. While Flatpak has been developed by people with a long involvement |
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> in the GNOME community it is not tied to any desktop. In fact, it was |
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> designed with the explicit goal of allowing it to build applications |
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> using any library stack or programming language an application author |
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> might want." |
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Marketing's-speak is marketing speak... |
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AFAIK, the only current implementation of a GUI from which to install |
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a Flatpak is Gnome Software, with KDE apparently working on something |
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similar. |
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So, unless you want to download a file and double-click on it, it's |
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Gnome for now and KDE soon. |
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> The flatpak packages take less space because there's a separation |
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> between runtimes and applications, with the runtime(s) containing many |
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> of the libraries/packages required by an application, and intended to |
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> be used by many of these, and the application package only containing |
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> the remaining required libraries, or maybe only the app, so it could |
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> reduce but not eliminate the problem previously discussed of |
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> dependencies being left unmaintained and not upgraded with security |
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> fixes. IMHO Flatpak seems a better option than Snap, and certainly |
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> reducing file system and device access is a good thing about both, but |
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> with these advantages some other problems are created, so it's a trade- |
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> off. |
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If you start relying on too many libraries in the runtimes, you end up |
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with the same "problem" as non-Flatpak, non-Snap packages. |
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> Maybe we will see Snaps/Flatpaks of popular proprietary software that's |
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> only available for Windows and MacOS right now that has no real FOSS |
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> competitor e.g. AutoCAD and family, I often hear the excuse of these |
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> vendors not supporting Linux because of the many distributions. Getting |
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> LibreCAD to the level of AutoCAD would take a decade or more at the |
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> pace it is going, right know it reminds me of AutoCAD 2004, and it |
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> isn't even a that level. |
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Linus has complained that the dive software that he created had |
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nightly or weekly (I forget) builds for macOS and Windows but not for |
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Linux because of the multitude of distributions. So he and those now |
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maintaining that app'll be happy. |