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It took me all of my skills ;-) . But I installed Pale Moon, using my |
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local overlay made from the official |
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https://github.com/deuiore/palemoon-overlay |
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which installed, via my Cgit bare git repo served by my (local only yet) |
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Apache, and so from my local mirror, in arcane ways (which I do not |
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understood the how completely yet, but the install is faultless), by |
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serving the git packs to emerge from the local git clone'd, and |
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cgit-on-apache-served |
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https://github.com/MoonchildProductions/Pale-Moon |
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. |
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That's new technology. EAPI=6 in the ebuild of the above linked official |
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palemoon-overlay ! Nothing I've seen in my previous 7 years as Gentoo |
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user. Only slowly gone into production since less than two years ago now. |
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I'd like to provide detailed info here how the above happened to perform |
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so faultlessly, because I may really need to brush some details (to be |
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able to keep installing it from cgit-on-apache local mirror, I still |
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can't believe it happened ;-) ), and to ask for advice on understanding |
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some of the details, and because those details may be useful to other |
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users, in the next email. |
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In the next email, because I first would like to post about the goodness |
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of Pale Moon, about the why it is the browser to recommend and support, |
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and what a newbie might find still lacking its the current overlay offer |
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(it should move to Portage proper and become official in Gentoo |
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mainstream!), from what I'ver learned about Pale Moon so far. |
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So, this... : |
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On 161221-01:17+0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote: |
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> On 161220-03:00-0500, Walter Dnes wrote: |
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> > On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 01:25:19PM +0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote |
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... |
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> > The Pale Moon project is located at... |
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> > https://github.com/MoonchildProductions/Pale-Moon |
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> That is certainly also what the official overlay uses, the one listed in: |
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> https://overlays.gentoo.org/ |
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... |
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> Unpacking objects: 100% (8/8), done. |
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> From https://github.com/deuiore/palemoon-overlay |
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> 237160b..d0b6f90 master -> origin/master |
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> Updating 237160b..d0b6f90 |
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> Fast-forward |
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> www-client/palemoon-bin/Manifest | 3 + |
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> www-client/palemoon-bin/palemoon-bin-27.0.3.ebuild | 112 |
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> ++++++++++++++++++++++++ |
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> www-client/palemoon/Manifest | 3 +- |
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> www-client/palemoon/palemoon-27.0.2.ebuild | 6 +- |
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> www-client/palemoon/palemoon-27.0.3.ebuild | 239 |
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
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...[the above] is my install, but: it happened in my Air-Gapped |
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machine, this time. |
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And Palemoon perfectly logs the SSL-keys, just like its elder sibling |
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Firefox does, so I won't spend any more talk on that. |
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But I enjoy using programs when they are (or when I feel they are, of |
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course this may be somewhat subjective) pure, that is, true FOSS, true |
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Open Source GNU-compatible style, and on top when they are morally good. |
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The promise, for no warranted reason, of the imposition of Pulseaudio by |
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Mozilla, in my eyes, is a huge blemish on Firefox. |
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Yes, I'm afraid Firefox is morally tainted as FOSS. But there have been |
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other issues, and in this Gentoo Forum topic you may read more about |
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other issues that I haven't familiarized with: |
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Should firefox be removed from portage? |
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https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1038430-start-25.html#7880354 |
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I defended Firefox there ( |
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https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1038430-start-25.html#7878932 ) , |
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and while I was right in that replacing it with something google, like |
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Chrom{e,ium}, is so much worse yet, and in that there were good sides to |
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Firefox that I posted about there, and those remain moot points for me |
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still, the promise of the imposition of Pulseaudio now sways my |
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remaining feelings away from loyalty to Mozilla |
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Also, read here: |
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Why was the default search changed to DuckDuckGo? |
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https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=4016 |
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where find (just to whet your reading appetite): |
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> A little insight in the $300 million+/year that Mozilla makes as an |
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> Open Source software provider (and how income has grown more than |
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> expenses...) |
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> http://www.eweek.com/enterprise-apps/mozilla-revenue-tops-311-million-from-open-source-technology.html |
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(also btw, DuckDuckGo.com has been my own preferred search engine since |
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years now!) |
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Also read here: |
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Pale Moon, Geolocation and You |
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https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=3658 |
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For newbie users of Palemoon: I have had a few minor issues (e.g. the |
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copying and pasting from navigation bar is not polished, clipboard |
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selection on navigation bar can get messed up on Alt-Tab'ing, which |
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issue Firefox does not have), but nothing at all large! |
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And the addons/extensions are a problem, because seeing a potential |
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capable adversary in its own fork, which Palemoon is for Firefox, |
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Mozilla has started deliberately messing up lots of plugins so that |
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Palemoon could not use them! |
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( E.g. from this page: |
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http://addons.palemoon.org/incompatible/ |
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I tried ti open link under Privacy Badger: |
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https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/privacy-badger-firefox/versions/?page=1#version-1.0.1 |
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but Mozilla reported a missing page. ) |
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Pale Moon devs have been hard at work to adapt/fork the |
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addons/plugins/extensions: |
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Why do some extensions not work in Pale Moon? |
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https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=8740 |
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[Downtime] and [Announcement] Project Phoebus - The Second Generation |
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Add-ons Site v1.0 |
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https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=13619 |
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, and lets give them time to do so and support |
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them! |
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( But if Pale Moon were to start over-commercializing like Firefox, and |
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if they were disabling things like Firefox has started doing, I wouldn't |
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be supported them anymore. Which I hope would not happen. ) |
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-- |
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Miroslav Rovis |
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Zagreb, Croatia |
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http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr |