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From: Grant Edwards <grante@××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Cell phone as modem
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 17:46:50
Message-Id: fiuqgd$4gv$1@ger.gmane.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Cell phone as modem by Grant
1 On 2007-12-02, Grant <emailgrant@×××××.com> wrote:
2
3 >> Yes. My Verizon LG VX4400 works fine as a modem. When plugged
4 >> into a USB port, it shows up as /dev/ttyUSBn. You can dial up
5 >> any landline modem you like using "AT" commands, or you can
6 >> dial up Verizon's internal ISP number. The connection looks
7 >> exactly like any other PPP connection via a serial modem.
8 >> Verizon provides low-speed (14.4Kbps) internet access for
9 >> "free" (doesn't cost you anything but normall calling
10 >> minutes). The free low-speed access isn't officially
11 >> supported: you won't find it listed in your contract. But,
12 >> it's always worked for me when I've needed it (I haven't tried
13 >> it for a few months, so YMMV). Higher speed access requires a
14 >> data plan.
15 >
16 > Nice, I'm very glad to hear it works so well. I guess
17 > something like that would work even over an analog connection.
18
19 On a true analog (800MHz AMPS service) cell phone, I've had
20 pretty decent success using MNP5 modems up to about 2400 baud.
21 The standard CCITT error dectection/correction schemes used on
22 landline modems isn't resilient enough for RF links. Good luck
23 finding MNP5 analog modems. ;) Multitech in St. Paul was the
24 last vendor I knew about that sold them, and that was 10+ years
25 ago.
26
27 If you're talking about an analog connection to a digital
28 phone, it just won't work. The Codecs that digital phones use
29 are optimized for human speech and won't pass QPSK (or even
30 FSK) modem signals in a usable manner.
31
32 >> AFAIK, most of the Verizon phones can work as modems. At least
33 >> that was true back when I was reading up on the subject (about
34 >> 4-5 years ago). AFAICT, all the other US carriers required you
35 >> to pay for a data plan if you want to use your phone for
36 >> tethered internet access.
37 >
38 > Unless you just dial another ISP right?
39
40 I don't think so. According to what information I could
41 gather, I don't think the other carriers provide data
42 connections to dial-up landline numbers without a data plan.
43 I'm not sure they even provide that _with_ a data plan. If you
44 find out otherwise, post a followup. I'd be particularly
45 interested in Sprint and QWest (which uses Sprint's network).
46
47 The problem is that you can't send modem carrier over a digital
48 cell phone. The phone implements "AT" commands in order to
49 pretend it's a modem for the convenience of user software.
50 It's not, however, a modem at all.
51
52 It's just passing on digital data that's carried by the
53 wireless protocol in use (GSM/TDMA or 1xRTT/CDMA). When you
54 "dial up a landline" with a digital cell phone, the wireless
55 carrier actually has to connect a modem to a landline at the
56 carriers switch and dial the number. The digital data from the
57 cellphone is then routed to that modem.
58
59 If you're using the wireless carrier as the ISP, then there are
60 no modems involved at all: the digital data from the modem is
61 simply routed onto the Internet.
62
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