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On 20/03/2014 20:57, Tom Wijsman wrote: |
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> On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 19:46:42 +0200 |
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> Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com> wrote: |
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>> eselect manages config options between different implementation of a |
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>> thing. Usually by tweaking symlinks. Switching init OpenRC <-> SystemD |
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>> involves resetting uSE flags and recompiling some fundamental stuff. |
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>> That exercise is unlikely to ever go into eselect. |
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> Well, running systemd now I can reboot into OpenRC; it just works. |
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How is this done? |
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>> The devs on gentoo-dev already nuked the idea of a gentoo profile as |
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>> such, it's not worth the effort and causes an explosion of profiles. |
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> It's happening, `find /usr/portage/profiles/ -name '*systemd*'`; does |
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> it have any consequences that are worth thinking through? |
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As it stands now exactly, none. I only checked one profile: |
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default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop/kde/ |
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and that consists of one file - parent. |
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It lists .. and targets/systemd as parents. Which is easy enough as long |
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as the idea of systemd with kde stays exactly like that - the strict |
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union of kde and systemd profiles. Right now, a few line script can |
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create those profiles, will it always be that way? |
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What are the chances of LXDE and/or XFCE getting their own profiles like |
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Gnome and KDE? If they do, and they warrant a systemd sub-profile, then |
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the number of updates increases quite a lot. I've seen this kind of |
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thing happen many times where the number opf combinations quickly gets |
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out of control and becomes scary maintenance. |
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It's a pity Gentoo doesn't support multiple profiles (just keep enabling |
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extra till you get what you want or portage finds a conflict). That |
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would make new profile settings much easier. It's probably not supported |
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for the same reason most languages don;t go multiple inheritance. Oh well |
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>> Conceptually, it is rather similar to switching between nouveau and |
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>> nvidia. That doesn't have eselect support[1] or profiles. |
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> Well, running NVIDIA now I can reboot with a simple script[1] put |
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> in /etc/local.d/nvidia.start (with execute permission); this works for |
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> me on both OpenRC and systemd, I'd say it is easy to do. Perhaps it can |
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> even be made more easy by rewriting the Xorg configuration to be device |
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> aware and therefore not needing the steps shown in this script. |
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> [1]: https://gist.github.com/TomWij/a13abacfb74999c10957 |
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Yeah, you'd really need to make it work with one unchanging xorg.conf. |
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And that first line of code - relying on "-nvidia" being in |
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/proc/cmdline - wtf is that? :-) |
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Such, um, butcher hacks work OK on your machine but sure ain't |
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production ready |
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Alan McKinnon |
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alan.mckinnon@×××××.com |
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