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From: Daniel Campbell <lists@××××××××.us>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] some of the stuff in /usr that's become a problem
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 03:41:03
Message-Id: 5248F2C2.9040301@sporkbox.us
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] some of the stuff in /usr that's become a problem by William Hubbs
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4 On 09/29/2013 10:13 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
5 > On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 09:21:01PM -0500, Daniel Campbell wrote:
6 >>> /usr/lib/udev..... /usr/lib/systemd.....
7 >>>
8 >>> were both placed in /usr despite objections from a number of
9 >>> folks.
10 >>>
11 >>> So claims that udev and systemd are not responsible are not
12 >>> true.
13 >
14 > Udev is installed in / in gentoo. I am a co-maintainer of udev and
15 > that was fixed quite some time back, it is the Gentoo systemd team
16 > that installs their version of udev in /usr.
17 >
18 > Installing udev or eudev, however, doesn't really solve the issue
19 > though, because it is possible to run arbitrary programs from
20 > within udev rules.
21 >
22 > Another unrelated concern is if you install a program in / that
23 > needs to access something in /usr/share, this will be broken by not
24 > having /usr mounted. This means that, for example, the locale logic
25 > of most software can't work without /usr since it accesses files in
26 > /usr/share/locale.
27 >
28 > William
29 >
30 I believe you misquoted. Greg said those things; I was merely quoting
31 him. :)
32
33 You're right, though; it's a problem that lots of programs have. I
34 guess it's the natural result of modular software that has
35 interdependencies. You basically need *everything* available on boot.
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Re: [gentoo-user] some of the stuff in /usr that's become a problem Greg Woodbury <redwolfe@×××××.com>