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From: Michael Orlitzky <michael@××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Where to put advanced routing configuration?
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2013 21:58:22
Message-Id: 524F39F6.4040409@orlitzky.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Where to put advanced routing configuration? by Kerin Millar
1 On 10/03/2013 04:28 PM, Kerin Millar wrote:
2 >
3 > The iptables runscript is ideal for persisting the rules. However,
4 > during the initial construction of a non-trivial ruleset, I prefer to
5 > write a script that adds the rules. An elegant way of doing this is to
6 > use iptables-restore with a heredoc. The method - and its advantages -
7 > are described in this document (section 3):
8 >
9 > http://inai.de/documents/Perfect_Ruleset.pdf
10 >
11
12 This advice is dubious in my opinion. The `iptables` command line is the
13 published interface to iptables. The iptables-restore syntax is an
14 implementation detail, subject to change at any time.
15
16 Here are his arguments:
17
18 1. Calling iptables repeatedly is slow.
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20 Who cares? How often do you invoke the script? Once or twice a year
21 when you change it.
22
23 2. There is an opportunity for someone to bypass the rules between
24 dropping/recreating them.
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26 Again, you run the script once or twice a year. Turn off the interface
27 beforehand if a few microseconds per year is too long to run without a
28 firewall.
29
30
31 And my counterarguments:
32
33 1. The iptables-restore syntax is uglier and harder to read.
34
35 2. You get better error reporting calling iptables repeatedly.
36
37 3. The published interface will never change; iptables-restore reads an
38 input language whose specification is "whatever iptables-save outputs."
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40 4. A bash script is far more standard and less confusing to your coworkers.
41
42 5. You can't script iptables-restore! What if you want to call sed, cut,
43 or grep on something and pass that to iptables? You can write a bash
44 script that writes an iptables-restore script to accomplish the same
45 thing, but how much complexity are you willing to add for next to no
46 benefit?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Where to put advanced routing configuration? Dragostin Yanev <gentoo+user@×××××××.com>
[gentoo-user] Re: Where to put advanced routing configuration? Martin Vaeth <vaeth@××××××××××××××××××××××××.de>
Re: [gentoo-user] Where to put advanced routing configuration? shawn wilson <ag4ve.us@×××××.com>