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On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Nikos Chantziaras<realnc@×××××.de> wrote: |
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> On 06/24/2009 03:06 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: |
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>> |
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>> [...] |
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>> Am I hosed again? Did updating portage break my machine by removing |
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>> what I was just using: |
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>> [...] |
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>> Is xorg-server-1.1.1 completely gone and I'm hosed? I'm not finding it |
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>> on my my machine. The only variations on that theme seem to be in |
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>> /var/db/pkg. No tar files, just other programming junk. |
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>> I absolutely HATE this about portage. Update your machine just |
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>> thinking about trying a new piece of software and then find you cannot |
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>> immediately go back. Gentoo was supposed to be about choice. Seems |
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>> it's not about my choice anymore. Bummer. |
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> I hate to say this, but if you have a machine that you don't keep up to date |
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> by doing full updates at least each month or two, then Gentoo is *not* for |
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> you because Gentoo simply lacks the notion of "stable". "Stable" refers to |
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> package versions, not system stability. Gentoo is never "stable" in that |
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> sense like other distros that offer "stable" releases. Something like |
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> Debian stable should be more appropriate and far more easier to keep |
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> operational for machines like that. |
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Gentoo is for me. Gentoo is the only distro I run and the only one |
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I've run for at least 6 years. Gentoo has run on THIS VERY MACHINE for |
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over 4 years and it is the ONLY distro that has EVER run on this |
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machine. Today I run eix-sync and emerge xorg-x11 and the machine |
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breaks and I cannot go back. It is not my choice that Gentoo |
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maintainers decided to drop something from portage required to make |
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this machine run and not give me a way to get it back. Portage chose |
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to erase files on MY machine - files that are required to make the |
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machine work. Gentoo package maintainers decided to obsolete my |
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machine, not me. |
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I'm sure there's some way to get things back working again but I don't |
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know what they are. I've got two identical machines but looking around |
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on the other machine it doesn't seem much happier, even though it's |
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currently functional. |
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Well, I guess you can chuckle at my problems and say tough luck. |
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Better if you can offer some guidance about what to read to go find |
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these files. |
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Again, I'd LOVE to keep the machine COMPLETELY up to date. It's not my |
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fault the folks who run portage decided to remove what this machine |
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requires to work. It's not my fault that ATI stopped supporting the |
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hardware. It's not my fault that the only driver that works with the |
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hardware only works with an old kernel. And there is probably NO |
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distro that would support this box anymore off the install CD. |
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- Mark |
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