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On Tuesday 10 Dec 2013 15:25:32 Walter Dnes wrote: |
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> On Sat, Dec 07, 2013 at 11:47:41AM +0000, Mick wrote |
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> > On Saturday 07 Dec 2013 11:27:50 Tom Wijsman wrote: |
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> > > On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 11:03:00 +0000 |
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> > > Mick <michaelkintzios@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> > > > It used to be the case that setting -gnome globally would be |
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> > > > sufficient, without having to manually mask packages. I had |
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> > > > gstreamer in pidgin to be able to get sound. I'm guessing that I |
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> > > > need gstreamer in pidgin to be able to set up a voice call in gtalk. |
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> > > > Is it the case that now one has to install gnome-base to be able to |
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> > > > use gstreamer? |
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> > > Seems so, you'll need to check with upstream or with the code for more |
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> > > details; but it is just one small package though. |
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> > Sure, today it is just gnome-base, tomorrow I could end up *having* |
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> > to install systemd or whatever RHL and their developers have deemed |
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> > appropriate for your average desktop system. I've masked the two |
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> > you suggested for now. |
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> The GNOME people have now made dbus a hard-coded dependancy of the |
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> latest gtk+. systemd can't be far behind. I've had dbus masked since |
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> it arrived approximately the same time as HAL. Here's what I get when |
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> trying to update gtk+ |
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I always thought that dbus is useful on a desktop system that is used to run, |
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errm ... applications, and it doesn't violate the *nix design philosophy. As |
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far as I understand it is only trying to be an IPC manager. I seem to recall |
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that Poettering and co tweaked something in libdbus, but my knowledge is quite |
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limited on all things Gnome. |
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Gnome devs decided in late 2012 to *not* make systemd a hard coded dependency, |
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but look where we are now. Without systemd needed/desirable functionality for |
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a Gnome desktop won't work. So, let's say that I tend to be sceptical on what |
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might be used next as the thin end of the wedge. |
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Regards, |
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Mick |