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On 2014-11-22 18:12, wireless@×××××××××××.com wrote: |
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> The first 100 or so I looked at, are deprecated. They just need |
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> somebody |
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> to 'remove them' the BGO java backlog is being artificially used to |
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> prevent java work on gentoo. Somebody of authority needs to open |
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> up java for other folks to work on. Close the 100 oldest bugs |
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> is a no brainer and a good start, yet nobody will do that, and nobody |
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> else is allowed to close them. |
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As i've been reading this thread it appears to be more and more that |
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there is a large feeling of a commune. It's not so much the hippy free |
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living and off grid everyone helping each other that most imagine it to |
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be but more an argument over who is going to buy the toilet paper this |
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week. |
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I've been using gentoo a while now and it was the incredible |
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documentation that turned me on to it, and these days if i need help |
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with something i'll go via man page, then the originator website and |
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eventually i might go to gentoo forums or look at the source code. |
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we are all in this together and our love of freedom, choice combined |
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with our collective sheer bloody minded-ness means we are unlikely to |
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drop gentoo for anything else. |
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now, we are all flying from the seat of our pants, and there are a few |
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saying "how do i help gentoo". i understand the confusion with this |
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question because i've kind of looked myself and not really got past the |
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first step. there was even a thread in this mailing list nearly a year |
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and a half ago asking the same thing [1] |
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all of gentoo council meetings happen on irc if i remember right so it's |
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not like there is an elite group deciding fate they are just sorting |
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things that need to be sorted. |
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do we really need a "mark shuttleworth" to start a rallying cry saying |
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"this way" and drawing a line in the sand we must hop over? |
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maybe it's just a shepherd to be more active in the recruitment and then |
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its a case of -- where to start collecting people? |
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perhaps in the staffing requirements there should be a gentoo marketeer |
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to push more information out to planet gentoo [2] ? there was another |
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discussion about "the end of herds" and this kind of thing really needs |
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to be voiced louder to maintain transparency, though it doesn't affect |
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me directly. |
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i think i need to get in touch with the project:documentation team and |
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see if i can help as there exists a java project page [3] but this is |
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not mentioned in the wiki for an example [4] of what adds to confusion |
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maybe what we need is a gentoo "unifier" to ensure that all content is |
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unified across all information channels (old and new wikis, mailing |
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lists, forums). good luck with that role...and finally i leave you with |
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[5] a link to soylentnews with the kind of openness and transparency |
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that it would be incredible to see from gentoo.org. i appreciate a news |
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site that spawned because of hatred of slashdot's beta program is not |
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the same thing as a linux meta-distribution however, there are anonymous |
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contributors, folks responsible for things and yet someone who is |
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actively involving the website's readers/members. i don't know if anyone |
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is familiar with soylentnews' startup process but there were daily |
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posts, invitations to irc where things were genuinely involving everyone |
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all the way up from domain name _ownership_ and seeking help with |
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hosting payments. i try to help with gentoo here on the mailing list |
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when i can and on the forums too but i know very little of the gentoo |
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foundation [6] |
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getting in touch with the documenation team [7] i think will be my first |
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step; now to allocate the time (!) |
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[1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/267858 |
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[2] http://planet.gentoo.org/ |
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[3] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/java/index.xml |
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[4] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Category:Projects |
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[5] http://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=14/09/15/1857254 |
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[6] https://www.gentoo.org/foundation/en/ |
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[7] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Documentation |