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From: thegeezer@×××××××××.net
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's future directtion ?
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 15:22:38
Message-Id: d8848421a7db61091f8e8dea4cc4adf2@thegeezer.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's future directtion ? by wireless@tampabay.rr.com
1 On 2014-11-22 18:12, wireless@×××××××××××.com wrote:
2
3 > The first 100 or so I looked at, are deprecated. They just need
4 > somebody
5 > to 'remove them' the BGO java backlog is being artificially used to
6 > prevent java work on gentoo. Somebody of authority needs to open
7 > up java for other folks to work on. Close the 100 oldest bugs
8 > is a no brainer and a good start, yet nobody will do that, and nobody
9 > else is allowed to close them.
10
11 As i've been reading this thread it appears to be more and more that
12 there is a large feeling of a commune. It's not so much the hippy free
13 living and off grid everyone helping each other that most imagine it to
14 be but more an argument over who is going to buy the toilet paper this
15 week.
16
17 I've been using gentoo a while now and it was the incredible
18 documentation that turned me on to it, and these days if i need help
19 with something i'll go via man page, then the originator website and
20 eventually i might go to gentoo forums or look at the source code.
21
22 we are all in this together and our love of freedom, choice combined
23 with our collective sheer bloody minded-ness means we are unlikely to
24 drop gentoo for anything else.
25
26 now, we are all flying from the seat of our pants, and there are a few
27 saying "how do i help gentoo". i understand the confusion with this
28 question because i've kind of looked myself and not really got past the
29 first step. there was even a thread in this mailing list nearly a year
30 and a half ago asking the same thing [1]
31
32 all of gentoo council meetings happen on irc if i remember right so it's
33 not like there is an elite group deciding fate they are just sorting
34 things that need to be sorted.
35
36 do we really need a "mark shuttleworth" to start a rallying cry saying
37 "this way" and drawing a line in the sand we must hop over?
38 maybe it's just a shepherd to be more active in the recruitment and then
39 its a case of -- where to start collecting people?
40 perhaps in the staffing requirements there should be a gentoo marketeer
41 to push more information out to planet gentoo [2] ? there was another
42 discussion about "the end of herds" and this kind of thing really needs
43 to be voiced louder to maintain transparency, though it doesn't affect
44 me directly.
45
46 i think i need to get in touch with the project:documentation team and
47 see if i can help as there exists a java project page [3] but this is
48 not mentioned in the wiki for an example [4] of what adds to confusion
49
50 maybe what we need is a gentoo "unifier" to ensure that all content is
51 unified across all information channels (old and new wikis, mailing
52 lists, forums). good luck with that role...and finally i leave you with
53 [5] a link to soylentnews with the kind of openness and transparency
54 that it would be incredible to see from gentoo.org. i appreciate a news
55 site that spawned because of hatred of slashdot's beta program is not
56 the same thing as a linux meta-distribution however, there are anonymous
57 contributors, folks responsible for things and yet someone who is
58 actively involving the website's readers/members. i don't know if anyone
59 is familiar with soylentnews' startup process but there were daily
60 posts, invitations to irc where things were genuinely involving everyone
61 all the way up from domain name _ownership_ and seeking help with
62 hosting payments. i try to help with gentoo here on the mailing list
63 when i can and on the forums too but i know very little of the gentoo
64 foundation [6]
65 getting in touch with the documenation team [7] i think will be my first
66 step; now to allocate the time (!)
67
68 [1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/267858
69 [2] http://planet.gentoo.org/
70 [3] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/java/index.xml
71 [4] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Category:Projects
72 [5] http://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=14/09/15/1857254
73 [6] https://www.gentoo.org/foundation/en/
74 [7] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Documentation

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