Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

[J. Roeleveld]

On Wednesday 08 September 2010 10:43:13 Al wrote:
> > emails too. But you still get the 'new mails' indicator.
>
> Good, that you finally start to understand that mails have their
> disadvantages in producing noise.

Actually, no...
With NNTP and Email can both be configured to display in threaded or non-
threaded mode.
The default just happens to be different, depending on the mail-client.

In both cases, a "new message" indicator will show, and with both News and 
Email, the same situation exists that you either leave messages as "unread" or 
select an entire thread to be marked "read"
This last is very simple with my favourite mail-client (KMail) and I would be 
surprised if the same isn't true for most mail clients.

> If you would go a step further you will be able to recognize, how this
> puts a cap on the potential userbase of Gentoo.

How does this put a cap on the potential userbase of Gentoo?

One of the largest Linux distributions at the moment is Ubuntu.
A quick check on their website doesn't show a News-server.

The same with Debian, RedHat, Fedora.

Actually, the only one I could find that does mention news-groups (OpenSuse) 
uses GMANE as a mailing-list / newsgroup bridge and points to GMANE.

Even though the Gentoo-project does not advertise the fact, the list-emails 
are accessible through NNTP and GMANE in the same way.

Now please leave it at this.

You have been offered 3 different solutions to your issue already:
- log a bug on bugzilla, as already mentioned
- use GMANE with your newsreader (or the other news-server that was already 
mentioned)
- accept the way things are done in the Gentoo-community and use the mailing 
list as designed.

--
Joost