Gentoo Archives: gentoo-user

From: "Canek Peláez Valdés" <caneko@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can not mount USB stick as user
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2014 20:34:59
Message-Id: CADPrc82k452h4q-yvWXGuxw84MRJbYcYfUc7wXnkqvvnq4Eg3g@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can not mount USB stick as user by Joseph
1 On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Joseph <syscon780@×××××.com> wrote:
2 > On 02/06/14 21:19, Alan McKinnon wrote:
3 >>
4 >> On 06/02/2014 17:09, Peter Humphrey wrote:
5 >>>
6 >>> On Thursday 06 Feb 2014 14:30:24 Alan McKinnon wrote:
7 >>>>
8 >>>> On 06/02/2014 08:19, Peter Humphrey wrote:
9 >>>>>
10 >>>>> On Wednesday 05 Feb 2014 20:02:00 Joseph wrote:
11 >>>
12 >>> --->8
13 >>>>>>
14 >>>>>> Here it is: grub.conf
15 >>>>>>
16 >>>>>> default 0
17 >>>>>> timeout 30
18 >>>>>>
19 >>>>>> title Gentoo Current Kernel
20 >>>>>> root (hd0,0)
21 >>>>>> kernel /boot/kernel-current root=/dev/hda3
22 >>>>>
23 >>>>>
24 >>>>> Shouldn't that hda3 in the kernel line be sda3?
25 >>>>
26 >>>>
27 >>>> No, he said earlier in the thread that this is an ancient box using the
28 >>>> old deprecated IDE subsystem.
29 >>>>
30 >>>> His fstab refers to drives as hd?
31 >>>
32 >>>
33 >>> Yes, I saw that after I hit Send. (So what else is new?)
34 >>>
35 >>> Seems to me that too many things need updating before Joseph can switch
36 >>> to the
37 >>> latest thing in init systems.
38 >>>
39 >>> Maybe he should go back to his last working system (from backup?), go
40 >>> through
41 >>> his kernel config piecemeal, setting sensible options, and generally
42 >>> bring the
43 >>> box up to date. Then he can start experimenting with the latest ideas.
44 >>> (Sorry
45 >>> Joseph, I don't mean to talk about you as though you weren't here!)
46 >>>
47 >>> I forget: how many years is it since the ancient /dev/hd? scheme was
48 >>> superseded and deprecated?
49 >>
50 >>
51 >>
52 >> Dim memory tells me it's somewhere around 2006/7?
53 >>
54 >> I agree with your suggested approach. Joseph should first get world
55 >> fully updated and synced, then switch the kernel disk system over to the
56 >> new framework, verify all that as working nicely, and only then activate
57 >> systemd. Like Canek said, systemd doesn't magically get installed and
58 >> them just work. It runs at too low a level for that to happen in all
59 >> cases.
60 >>
61 >> --
62 >> Alan McKinnon
63 >> alan.mckinnon@×××××.com
64 >
65 >
66 > I'm running on this box linux-3.10.17-gentoo so it is fairly new. I updated
67 > my world 1-month ago.
68 > I usually update every three months. First backup system, if there are no
69 > major issues after a week or so I upgrade few other system and if everything
70 > goes smooth I upgrade the main system with the same three.
71 >
72 > Is is possible to have packages without "systemd" flag.
73 > I was just rebuilding gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon
74 >
75 > and it wants to pull-in: sys-apps/systemd-208-r2
76 > and this conflicts with udev.
77 >
78 > I'm not switching to systemd anytime soon, got burned recently and have no
79 > time to learn new configuration settings.
80
81 As I said in the other thread, you need to set the openrc-force USE
82 flag for gnome-settings-daemon. Again, this is not really supported,
83 it will result in reduced functionality, and somethings will probably
84 fail.
85
86 And since most of the underlying infrastructure of Xfce is really
87 GNOME, this probably will happen with more and more packages in the
88 future, as more and more things start using the more sane and advanced
89 functionality of logind.
90
91 Regards.
92 --
93 Canek Peláez Valdés
94 Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
95 Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México