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From: Mark Knecht <markknecht@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Upside/downside to including config files in quickpkg?
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:33:22
Message-Id: 5bdc1c8b1002111332i2e9f206cjc1a9073e7a140001@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Upside/downside to including config files in quickpkg? by Alan McKinnon
1 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com> wrote:
2 > On Thursday 11 February 2010 22:37:00 Mark Knecht wrote:
3 >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
4 > wrote:
5 >> > On Thursday 11 February 2010 22:09:28 Mark Knecht wrote:
6 >> >> Can someone comment on why I do or do not want to include config files
7 >> >> when making quickpkg files?
8 >> >>
9 >> >> Seems like there is the issue of hand edits being saved which would be
10 >> >> a good reason to keep them. I'm not overly worried about someone
11 >> >> stealing them and getting access to settings, but I can see that might
12 >> >> be a good reason not to.
13 >> >>
14 >> >> If I don't save them and then after a crash want to use binary
15 >> >> packages to get a machine running quickly it seems like I'd want to
16 >> >> include everything I could.
17 >> >>
18 >> >> What would the more experienced user do for the single-user desktop type
19 >> >> user?
20 >> >
21 >> > The config of the package you quickpkg'ed likely works.
22 >> > emerge -k is most often used to revert your own mistakes, so you want the
23 >> > thing to work. Your latest configs are suspect, why insist they take
24 >> > priority? You can always rename them to <name>.bak if you think they
25 >> > might get nuked.
26 >> >
27 >> > Why do you care if someone steals your quickpkgs? Put them in a directory
28 >> > owned by root, they are then as safe as your stuff in /etc. To get to the
29 >> > tarballs, they must get to a place where they can just read the
30 >> > originals....
31 >>
32 >> Thanks Alan. That confirms what I was thinking.
33 >>
34 >> My comment about things getting stolen is that I might burn them to
35 >> DVD for safe keeping in which case anyone can walk off with the DVD.
36 >> I'm not overly worried about that and it's far and away less of an
37 >> issue than getting the machine back to a running state.
38 >
39 > OK, I see.
40 >
41 > As long as you know which configs have password in them and take precautions,
42 > you should be OK.
43 >
44 > For the truly paranoid (and there will be someone who is validly so) another
45 > option is to store /etc in a remote SVN instance that is secured, and not
46 > store configs with the quickpkgs
47
48 Thanks. Like I said originally I'm not worried about it but at least
49 you understood why I asked.
50
51 One thing I haven't found so far is what to put in make.conf to get
52 the buildpkg feature to include the configs. It's easy at the command
53 line. Where's the documentation on how to actually use this the right
54 way automatically?
55
56 - Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] Upside/downside to including config files in quickpkg? Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@××××××××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-user] Upside/downside to including config files in quickpkg? Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk>