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From: Eric Martin <freak4uxxx@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Hard to find netiquette, enculturation bug. (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] GNOME: Cant logout and Lock Screen is showing different background from GNOME screensaver)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:58:47
Message-Id: 494EF448.1000007@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Hard to find netiquette, enculturation bug. (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] GNOME: Cant logout and Lock Screen is showing different background from GNOME screensaver) by Mark David Dumlao
1 Mark David Dumlao wrote:
2 > On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Eric Martin <freak4uxxx@×××××.com> wrote:
3 >
4 >> I've seen plenty of emails going around requesting people not top-post
5 >> and not to post via html. I don't think it's as big of a problem as
6 >> this thread makes it out to be. While I'm sure some people do ignore
7 >> posts that fall into those categories, there's not really much you or I
8 >> can do about it.
9 >>
10 > I don't like defeatist attitudes just because they're related to
11 > community changes. There are certain parts of the community that can
12 > be readily improved (typically relating to centralized rules, FAQs,
13 > etc) and certain parts that are very difficult to improve (typically
14 > relating to the users' attitudes).
15 >
16 > If someone makes even a passing note of this on the website, then my
17 > single bug report might do the work of several dozen "dont post in
18 > html" mails over time.
19 >
20 >
21 >> Do you honestly believe that people who ignore html emails are doing
22 >> something different than you for ignoring any post you don't care
23 >> about? That argument can be easily silenced when you realize that some
24 >> people "don't care" for html formatted email.
25 >>
26 > That's a pretty easy question to answer and substantiate. Yes. Posts
27 > are typically discriminated upon based on their content. On the other
28 > hand, html posts are discriminated based upon their formatting. This
29 > means questions that people would otherwise have answered get ignored.
30 > Content discrimination is a null transaction. Formatting
31 > discrimination is at some times a null transaction and at some times
32 > negative (friction).
33 >
34 >
35 I looked at your original post, the person who replied to you did so in
36 a concise manner that he doesn't like html emails.
37
38 On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 8:24 AM, Nicolas Sebrecht
39 <nicolas.s-dev@××××××××.net> wrote:
40
41 > >
42 > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:06:26PM +0800, Mark David Dumlao wrote:
43 > >
44 >
45 >> > > er, anyone?
46 >>
47 > >
48 > > You may try by sending a mail using the text format instead of the HTML
49 > > one. I don't read more than one line when it's written in HTML. I
50 > > suspect that a lot of contributors do the same here.
51 > >
52 > > Please, conform to the netiquette.
53 >
54
55 That was one of the coldest, most invisible, and hardest to
56 troubleshoot communication errors I've ever seen. I don't even know
57 where to begin.
58
59
60 I don't know if he could have made that any clearer. That being said,
61 I'm done contributing to spam on the list. Please bottom post and post
62 in a text only format. For many people (myself included) this is the
63 first mailing list they joined. Nobody was handed a manual up front,
64 for the most part you learn as you go.

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