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From: Michael Schmarck <michael.schmarck@×××××××××××××.de>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead?
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:07:33
Message-Id: 1945355.vdhgXyNiVQ@michael-schmarck.my-fqdn.de
In Reply to: [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead? by James
1 · James <wireless@×××××××××××.com>:
2
3 > Michael Schmarck <michael.schmarck <at> habmalnefrage.de> writes:
4 >
5 >
6 >> Well, actually, I never used a Gentoo install CD to install Gentoo. I
7 >> also don't quite understand, why anyone would need such a beast.
8 >
9 > Folks new to gentoo, would find it suspicious, for a distro not to have
10 > it's own install.....
11
12 Why's that? The documentation should just point to some other
13 install CDs, if you'd like to call GRML that.
14
15 > Other forks of Gentoo have their install methods.
16
17 Nice for them.
18
19 > For those new to gentoo, it's like getting married without a honeymoon....
20 > IMHO.
21
22 I don't get that.
23
24 >> To install Gentoo, I'd boot my favorite "rescue system" (GRMl nowadays,
25 >> Knoppix back then, but IMO Knoppix is too "fat" for *this* *task*)
26 >> and install from there. No need for an install CD.
27 >
28 > OK, fine, then why doesn't of the persons that says it so easy, just take
29 > a GRMl (or whatever) cd and add the minimal (non gui) stuff to the same
30 > cd and make a simple to use 'install cd' for gentoo that is unofficial?
31
32 Why should that be done? GRML (or whatever) come with their own
33 GUI. And for the installation of Gentoo, the only "GUI" that's
34 needed, is a terminal.
35
36 > Wouldn't it be easy for all of those whose answer this installation
37 > question over and over and over, to make a basic install cd on top of GRMl
38 > once and be done with it?
39
40 No. That would outdate as well and wouldn't support newer hardware.
41
42 But what would be gained by doing what you suggest?
43
44 >> As far as I'm concerned, the Gentoo install CD could easily be dropped
45 >> without a loss.
46 >
47 > Well, I differ with this statement 100%.
48
49 Fine. Why?
50
51 > What, IMHO, needs to happened is the
52 > whole install process be changed to a minimal working kernel and basic tools.
53
54 That's what you get, when you use some other Live CD like Ubuntu or
55 whatever.
56
57 [...]
58 > the SD media when he runs out of disk space. That's the kind of project
59 > where embedded gentoo and gentoo workstations need "seemless"
60 > integration.
61
62 Cool :) But what does that have to do with an installation CD?
63
64 Michael Schmarck
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66 If you don't see why, please stay the fuck away from my code.
67 Rusty, in linux-2.6.6/Documentation/DocBook/kernel-locking.tmpl
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