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From: lee <lee@××××××××.de>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 03:58:11
Message-Id: 87oa07xnzt.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No by Dale
1 Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> writes:
2
3 > lee wrote:
4 >> Daniel Frey <djqfrey@×××××.com> writes:
5 >>
6 >>> On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, lee wrote:
7 >>>> "Walter Dnes" <waltdnes@××××××××.org> writes:
8 >>>>
9 >>>>> Similarly, the vast majority of home users have a machine with one
10 >>>>> ethernet port, and in the past it's always been eth0.
11 >>>> Since 10 years or so, the default is two ports.
12 >>> Not in any of the computers I've built. Generally only high end or
13 >>> workstation/server boards have two ports.
14 >>>
15 >>> i.e. not what the typical home user would buy.
16 >> It is not reasonable to assume that a "typical home user" would want a
17 >> computer with a crappy board to run Linux on it (or for anything
18 >> else). If they are that cheap, they're better off buying a used one.
19 >> When they are sufficiently clueless to want something like that, what
20 >> does it matter what the network interfaces are called.
21 >>
22 >
23 > I built my current rig just a few years ago. It has one ethernet port
24 > on it. Since it didn't work right, bad drivers I guess, I added a card
25 > to have the second port. The rig I built before that, it also had one
26 > ethernet port.
27 >
28 > I might add, I didn't buy a "crappy board" either. The first was Abit
29 > which was the top rated brand at the time and my current board is
30 > Gigabyte, another highly rated board at the time I bought it.
31
32 I have no experience with Abit, and I can tell you from experience with
33 a couple of them that Gigabyte is the worst junk for a board you can
34 buy and that their support has no idea what they are doing.
35
36 > As Daniel
37 > points out, you have to get into some pretty high end boards before you
38 > get two ethernet ports.
39 >
40 > Just for giggles, I went and looked at Asus boards, currently highly
41 > rated. I had to get up around the $400 range to find two ports. Most
42 > computers built for home use, and even some, maybe most, business
43 > computers, only have one port. It's all they need.
44 >
45 > I might also add, I have a lot of friends that give me their old
46 > computers. Of all the puters I have ever seen, they had one ethernet
47 > port. Over the past decade or so, I've likely stripped out a few dozen
48 > computers for parts. Not one of them had two ethernet ports.
49 >
50 > I'm with Daniel on this one.
51
52 The last time I got a board that didn't have two ports is about 20 years
53 ago, and I never bought one for 400. They all just have 2, needed or
54 not, even cheap ones.

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