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On Saturday 21 March 2009 21:00:11 Dale wrote: |
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> Mike Kazantsev wrote: |
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> > On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:17:53 -0600 |
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> > Mike Diehl <mdiehl@××××××××.com> wrote: |
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> >> Has Gentoo become such a moving target that it's no longer suitable for |
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> >> normal, every day, usage? |
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> > If you're prepared to update you system at least once a week and |
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> > have up-to-date knowledge of all the installed stuff, so you can at |
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> > least make a decision whether you need some functionality or not... |
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> > Then yep, I'd suggest gentoo. |
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> > If you don't care about either then I don't understand why you started |
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> > using it in first place - red hat or debian-based distro would've been |
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> > much easier and simplier. |
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> I don't know if this is still the case or not but Mandrake updates |
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> seemed like a reinstall on top of itself to me. Sort of like when you |
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> reinstall windoze. It doesn't delete anything, user wise anyway, but |
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> just puts all the new stuff in there. |
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> You don't get the latest updates with Mandrake like Gentoo does but that |
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> doesn't appear to be to important to you since you don't update very |
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> often anyway. I suspect some other distro may better suite your needs. |
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> I been using Gentoo for years and update at least weekly and I rarely |
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> have trouble. However, if you let the updates pile up, you can have |
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> issues that are difficult to deal with. |
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> Overall, I agree with Mike here. Update regularly or use some other |
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> distro as he mentioned. |
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> Dale |
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> :-) :-) |
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Ok, when I started using Gentoo, I remember a discussion about how often to do |
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an emege world and the prevailing wisdom at the time was to do it when you |
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needed a new feature, or fix. If the new wisdom is to update, say, weekly, I |
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can live with that on the local machines here at the home/office. I'm a bit |
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concerned about the servers I have co-located out of state, though. On the |
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other hand, those are production machines and probably don't need to be |
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upgraded many times during their lifetime. |
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I've run several other distributions over the years and up until recently I've |
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never looked back from Gentoo. |
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I ran Slackware back when it came on 3.5" floppies. Of course it had NO |
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package manager, so when Redhat hit the scene, I converted. |
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Redhat, back then was built for a generic 486, so when Mandrake came along |
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with pentium optimizations, I converted. |
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But like you said, upgrading Redhat/Mandrake always seemed a bit windoze'ish |
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to me. You really were simply piling the upgrade on top of the old system, |
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like you said earlier. |
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I used Suse on a project at work and hated every minute of it, and the help |
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forums were mostly flamefests. Never even considered Suse for "real" work. |
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Like I said, I've been using Gentoo for years now. When I met Daniel Robbins, |
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I'd already been using Gentoo for several months. Gentoo is still the most |
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customizable and optimize-able distribution available. Sometimes it's down |
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right elegant. http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/10106 |
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However, lately, Gentoo seems to have been plagued with problems. Circular |
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blockers. 32/64 bit libraries. Package re-organization. Others. |
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So here is the question: Are these just growing pains, or is this the trend |
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with Gentoo? If I resolve to update frequently, will these problems become |
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more rare? |
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I'll start a new thread to seek help with my MythTV upgrade problem. |
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Thanks for listening. |
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Mike. |