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From: lee <lee@××××××××.de>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 11:39:49
Message-Id: 87vb5j7j0y.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home? by Rich Freeman
1 Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> writes:
2
3 > On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 7:57 PM, lee <lee@××××××××.de> wrote:
4 >> Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> writes:
5 >>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 7:26 PM, lee <lee@××××××××.de> wrote:
6 >>>> Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> writes:
7 >>>>
8 >>>>> However, while an RDP-like solution protects you from some types of
9 >>>>> attacks, it still leaves you open to many client-side problems like
10 >>>>> keylogging. I don't know any major corporation that lets people RDP
11 >>>>> into their applications in general.
12 >>>>
13 >>>> What do they use instead?
14 >>>>
15 >>>
16 >>> As I mentioned in my previous email - they just hand all their
17 >>> employees laptops. Control the hardware, control the software,
18 >>> control the security...
19 >>
20 >> I mean instead of rdp. It's a simple solution which works really well
21 >> on a LAN with Windoze. What's the equivalent that works with Linux?
22 >
23 > Well, I've never been in a company that runs Linux on the desktop, or
24 > which even provides VDIs for Windows.
25
26 I'm doing that at work, and nothing speaks against doing it on the
27 thin-clients other than that the users would need to get used to it and
28 the poor graphics performance --- you can't really call that
29 "performance" --- of thin clients. Other than that, we'd be much better
30 off.
31
32 What we would need are cheap thin clients that can drive at least two 4k
33 displays each, and there are none that could even drive one. I don't
34 understand why they make thin-clients that aren't usable because their
35 graphics "performance" is from the '90ies.
36
37 > The most common solution is to provide windows laptops to users with
38 > various software packages for management/security/etc.
39
40 Laptops have slightly better graphics and add a maintenance overhead
41 thin-clients don't have, and they cost more. Other than that, they
42 could replace the thin-clients, and nothing speaks against putting
43 Gentoo onto them.
44
45 Desktop machines require too much electricity. That's another thing I
46 don't understand: Why can't they finally manufacture hardware which is
47 really power efficient /and/ provides decent performance?
48
49 > The closest thing to RDP for Linux that I'm aware of us various
50 > NX-based implementations, like x2go, which I've mentioned a few times.
51 > It can be somewhat finicky. And of course there is VNC, which is much
52 > less efficient. I don't think either really gets to the level of RDP
53 > in general.
54 >
55 > I do sometimes wonder how the #1 server OS in the world somehow lacks
56 > decent facilities for graphical remote login, and for sharing files
57 > across the network. (For the latter NFS is a real pain to set up in a
58 > remotely secure fashion - part of the problem is that it is hard to
59 > use some kind of a UUID to drive file permissions, and kerberos/etc is
60 > a pain to set up. There is certainly nothing approaching the ease of
61 > just setting a password on a share or connecting to a windows domain
62 > (even a samba-driven one)).
63
64 Indeed, it's really strange that there's such a big lack.