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From: Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@×××××.de>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: how to remove HAL
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 01:03:27
Message-Id: i2qite$s70$2@dough.gmane.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-user] Re: how to remove HAL by Nikos Chantziaras
1 Just after posting this, I realized that KDE 4.4 uses policykit, but 4.5
2 uses the new polkit. I guess that's why I never needed to mess with any
3 configuration files.
4
5
6 On 07/29/2010 03:38 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
7 > Btw, I think now the package is "polkit", not "policykit"; I think the
8 > first replaced the second. If you enable the "policykit" USE flag for
9 > kdelibs and consolekit, only sys-auth/polkit gets installed, not
10 > sys-auth/policykit. However, if you enable that USE flag globally in
11 > make.conf, then I think both get installed because some package probably
12 > depend on the older package.
13 >
14 > Anyway, I don't have a "policykit.conf". Or if I have one, I don't know
15 > where it is and I never edited it. And yet everything seems to be
16 > working just fine here.
17 >
18 >
19 > On 07/29/2010 03:31 AM, Andrey Vul wrote:
20 >> Ugh. Now i'll actually have to config policykit.conf.
21 >> For some reason, match group=wheel return yes fails so much. Somehow
22 >> the mount-ro defaults to no every time
23 >>
24 >> On 2010-07-28, Nikos Chantziaras<realnc@×××××.de> wrote:
25 >>> On 07/28/2010 11:54 PM, Andrey Vul wrote:
26 >>>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 14:50, Nikos Chantziaras<realnc@×××××.de>
27 >>>> wrote:
28 >>>>> On 07/28/2010 08:23 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
29 >>>>>>
30 >>>>>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:31:21 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
31 >>>>>>
32 >>>>>>> And why do you want to remove it in the first place? It's not gonna
33 >>>>>>> eat your cat.
34 >>>>>>
35 >>>>>> Although it may kill your crew.
36 >>>>>
37 >>>>> I think most people don't understand what X used HAL for. They think
38 >>>>> that
39 >>>>> they can remove HAL and still have stuff like USB
40 >>>>> hotplugging/automounting
41 >>>>> working. But that's wrong. Gnome/KDE use HAL for this, not X. And if
42 >>>>> you
43 >>>>> disable HAL completely, that stuff will stop working.
44 >>>>>
45 >>>>>
46 >>>>
47 >>>> E.g. solid-hardware for HAL-mounting devices by uuid/volume-id.
48 >>>>
49 >>>> I just got rid of policykit - too much trouble.
50 >>>> But I kept HAL because it's very useful.
51 >>>
52 >>> If you're on KDE, you will need policykit again in the future, since
53 >>> with KDE 4.5 (to be released in a matter of days) it's not really
54 >>> optional anymore. I got hit by this when updating to it (now at RC3):
55 >>>
56 >>> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=244444
57 >
58 >
59 >