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Am 27.01.2013 22:01, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: |
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> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 4:30 AM, Florian Philipp <lists@×××××××××××.net> wrote: |
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>> Am 27.01.2013 03:24, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: |
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>>> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Florian Philipp <lists@×××××××××××.net> wrote: |
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>>>> Hi list! |
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>>>> Quick question: If I deactivate the kmod use flag in udev and keep |
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>>>> sys-apps/module-init-tools, does udev still load modules or is kmod a |
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>>>> required flag for that? |
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>>> I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think so. The git repository has not a |
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>>> single instance of the strings "modprobe" or "insmod", apparently the |
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>>> only way to load modules in udev is to use kmod. I think the kmod |
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>>> configure option (which is the one the USE flag activate/deactivate), |
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>>> is for systems where all the modules are built-in, like embedded ones. |
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>> Okay. I thought I've heard about some dev patching udev to work with |
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>> modprobe at one point. Could be mistaken or outdated, though. |
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> The patches in the ebuild don't include anything to use modprobe: |
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> http://dev.gentoo.org/~williamh/dist/udev-197-patches-1.tar.bz2 |
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Thanks for looking! |
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>>> Unless udev has no other means to load modules, I think disabling kmod |
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>>> assumes then that all the modules are built-in. And if you use |
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>>> modules, may I ask why you would prefer module-init-tools over kmod? |
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>>> Specially when the later is a drop-in, better supported replacement? |
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>> Is it really a drop-in? I was under the impression that for example |
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>> `modprobe -l` is not implemented (mentioned in a comment on the eudev |
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>> fork on LWN). I guess that's outdated as well. |
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> No, modprobe -l is not supported, but it's trivially to emulate, and |
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> the option was already deprecated in module-init-tools. From the kmod |
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> README: |
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> "kmod-modprobe gained several features to be a 1:1 replacement for |
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> modprobe. The only missing things are the options '--showconfig' and |
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> '-t / -l'. These last ones have been deprecated long ago and they will |
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> be removed from modprobe. A lot of effort has been put on |
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> kmod-modprobe to ensure it maintains compabitility with modprobe." |
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> As you yourself commented, using an alias with find more than enough. |
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> Regards. |
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Yeah, easy enough when you know your way around shell scripts and know |
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where to look. In my opinion, it is still kind of stupid to remove a |
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useful feature with no replacement. |
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Hmm, maybe it's time to write a better replacement. Something more like |
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eix, just for modules ... |
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Regards, |
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Florian Philipp |
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