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On Thursday 27 March 2008, Michael Schmarck wrote: |
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> > The question now is why were the alsa, oss and other drivers |
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> > removed from the -base ebuild? |
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> Because they belong to the meta package, I suppose. The real |
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> question rather is, why was rb not updated to depend on -meta. |
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> I filed https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=214852 for that. |
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Good luck with getting a dev to agree to that. I wouldn't, and don't |
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know a single case in portage where an ebuild DEPENDS on a -meta ebuild |
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(possible -metas DEPENDING on subordinate -metas excepted) |
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-meta packages are designed to be manually added to world by users who |
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wish an easy way to emerge everything. It's not described in policy |
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anywhere I have ever seen, the actual usage in practise tells you the |
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intended usage. |
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Go back and read bug 159470 again, especially comments 3 and 4. The |
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dependencies you propose cause circular dependency loops and |
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recompilation of packages that depend on the USE flags when they |
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change, even when the resulting files installed are EXACTLY the same as |
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the ones replaced. This is the reason why the USE flags were removed |
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from the ebuild, to save you from the horror that is circular deps. |
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> > I recall something similar with another sound |
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> > app a while ago, the reason is that it could be used as a networked |
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> > sound delivery server and there's no good reason to require the |
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> > user to have sound driver support on the local machine. I suspect |
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> > your bug will be closed WONTFIX, with luck the dev will justify |
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> > their reasoning. |
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> If not, I'll reopen it. |
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And Jakob will probably just close it. He's brutal about that, and it's |
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his job. The problem you are trying to solve would be much better |
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served with a request for an ELOG to be emitted by rhythmbox alerting |
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to user to the need to install gst-plugins-whatever. |
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There's a damn good reason why rhythmbox does does depend on -meta. That |
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will never happen, so you should get over it. Bug 159470 explains why |
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it's not a good idea to depend on -base either, so now you get to issue |
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one more emerge by yourself. These decisions are made taking the entire |
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Gentoo ecosystem into account and what is best for all users. If you |
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will be inconvenienced by a step taken for the greater good and there |
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is no sane way to give you what you'd like, then the loser will be you. |
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Sorry. |
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Alan McKinnon |
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alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com |
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