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From: Joshua D Doll <joshua.doll@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh?
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 23:12:41
Message-Id: 498B7263.7040405@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh? by Saphirus Sage
1 Saphirus Sage wrote:
2 > Joshua D Doll wrote:
3 >
4 >> Dale wrote:
5 >>
6 >>> Joshua D Doll wrote:
7 >>>
8 >>>
9 >>>> Mark Knecht wrote:
10 >>>>
11 >>>>
12 >>>>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Paul Hartman
13 >>>>> <paul.hartman+gentoo@×××××.com> wrote: I completely agree. I
14 >>>>> like the control also.
15 >>>>>
16 >>>>> I only took a *very* small exception to Joshua's statement that a 'new
17 >>>>> user' could read, follow it and understand what it's telling him/her
18 >>>>> to do and then do it and come out with a working machine. I think it's
19 >>>>> true if the new user builds exactly the 3 partition example shown in
20 >>>>> the docs and does *only* the very basic install on a machine that
21 >>>>> doesn't have Windows, etc. However I think that the docs (not the
22 >>>>> software!) could be improved to handle things like dual-boot, either
23 >>>>> another distro or windows, etc. which personally I think 'new users'
24 >>>>> come up against. Issues about stuff like where to put the MBR, why and
25 >>>>> why not to do that sort of thing, requires (or is vastly enhanced) if
26 >>>>> that new user has some knowledge about hard drives, booting, etc.
27 >>>>>
28 >>>>> - Mark
29 >>>>>
30 >>>>>
31 >>>>>
32 >>>>>
33 >>>> I 100% agree that the docs can and should cover more. Maybe a
34 >>>> flowchart would be useful?
35 >>>>
36 >>>> --Joshua Doll
37 >>>>
38 >>>>
39 >>>>
40 >>>>
41 >>> I wish the man pages had more examples. Give me a real world example
42 >>> and I can wrap my poor brain around what it should look like when I do
43 >>> something.
44 >>>
45 >>> Dale
46 >>>
47 >>> :-) :-)
48 >>>
49 >>>
50 >>>
51 >>>
52 >> Man pages are notoriously bad. The gentoo handbook and other official
53 >> docs are great OTOH.
54 >>
55 >> --Joshua Doll
56 >>
57 >>
58 > Man pages notoriously bad?! Now that's a stance I can hardly understand,
59 > they've always been a godsend in my experience! Just practice using a
60 > command a few times, look through the options and learn it in the period
61 > of ten minutes, and a man page has done its purpose. If this stance is
62 > due to your own inadequate ability to read technical documents, then do
63 > not apply the lacking to anything but your own capacity for comprehension.
64 >
65 >
66 >
67 Just cause you haven't run across an uninformative/incomplete man page
68 doesn't mean others haven't. Also man pages lacking valuable information
69 is the reason why GNU has switched to the majority of their packages to
70 using info! You shouldn't flame someone because your experiences are
71 different from their's.
72
73 --Joshua Doll

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh? Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh? Stroller <stroller@××××××××××××××××××.uk>