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On December 11, 2018 2:00:45 AM UTC, "Taiidan@×××.com" <Taiidan@×××.com> wrote: |
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>On 12/10/2018 05:54 PM, Dale wrote: |
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>> Neil Bothwick wrote: |
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>>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 16:33:10 -0500, Taiidan@×××.com wrote: |
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>>>>> Not sure which country would be a reliable location though, I |
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>>>>> wouldn't trust Western European countries either. |
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>>>> USA is currently the best option since there have never been proven |
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>>>> backdoors in made in usa hardware but plenty in chinese made |
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>hardware |
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>>>> such as the recent motherboard hack chip scandal. |
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>>> So that proves that US manufacturers are better at hiding their back |
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>>> doors? |
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>>> Or is it a numbers game, there are a hell of a lot more systems made |
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>in |
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>>> China, so the chances of a backdoor being discovered is higher. |
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>>> Either way, lack of evidence of insecurity is not proof of security. |
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>So tell us what is your perfect country for hardware manufacturing? |
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I can't think of any. |
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>Name one other country on earth besides america where you can say no to |
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>a governmental request for a backdoor in your hardware or software |
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>products and not end up in prison. |
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The USA can send someone to prison if he/she refuses a request by the government. It is called being a traitor. |
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In other words, I still don't consider the USA to be a reliable origin either. |
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>In the mean time will you continue to buy chinese products with proven |
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>backdoors since getting that is somehow better than something that is |
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>only almost perfect? |
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Here is the thing, there isn't anything proven. |
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>The amd bulldozer and piledriver CPU's like the FX-8350 and its opteron |
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>counterparts are made in germany (the packaging is done in china but at |
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>that point afaik there isn't much that can be done to fuck with it) but |
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>that still wouldn't satisfy you since germany doesn't have anything |
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>like |
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>the constitution - they have no freedom of speech. |
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Please do read up on other countries before making these claims. A Constitution is not a requirement for Freedom of Speech. Part of that is Freedom of Press, your own President is destroying that as much as he can. |
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>The future of freedom computing is OpenPOWER and RISC-V since they are |
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>the only owner controlled archs that have real performance and |
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>features, |
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>in other words they have juice. |
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Unless you are confident production is real and nothing was added, OpenPower can be compromised as well. |
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Joost |
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