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On Friday, 5 August 2022 21:45:25 BST Dale wrote: |
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> Michael wrote: |
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> > What kind of protection are you seeking - what is your threat model? |
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> I'm mostly wanting it so people can't just look and see what I'm doing |
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> or where I am, mostly my ISP. |
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In this case 'people' and your ISP will see you are connecting to the remote |
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VPN, but not what website you visit thereon. |
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The website you visit will not see your real IP, but the exit IP of the VPN |
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node. This may break some websites and streaming services who only allow |
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connections from specific jurisdictions. |
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> I do a little torrenting and such too. |
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> ;-) That said, even if I go to my bank's website which is https, it |
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> will also go through a VPN which also encrypts the traffic. My bank is |
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> secure as far as I know but having more protection added can't be a bad |
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> thing. |
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All connections to banks are encrypted end-to-end for decades now and the |
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encryption has becoming stronger over the years. |
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> I'm torn between torguard and surfshark. I'm not sure where torguard is |
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> located but surfshark is in the Netherlands I think. Outside US |
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> jurisdiction and from what I've read, they never give info to anyone |
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> about their customers traffic. |
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Yeah, that's what they all say - their business model depends on it. State |
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sponsored actors are likely to know what the need to know anyway, with or |
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without the explicit VPN providers collaboration. ;-) |
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> I'm still researching torguard. Maybe |
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> someone here knows where they are located??? |
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I understand they are a US based provider in Florida: |
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Vpnetworks, LLC |
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618 E South St |
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Orlando, FL 32801 |
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but they have VPN servers all over the globe. Some are virtual servers and |
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are NOT physically located in the countries they claim. The fact it is |
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located in the USA it means the authorities can request client list |
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information. VPN providers in jurisdictions like BVI, Panama, or even |
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Switzerland might stand a better chance. |
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Anyway, this is a moot point. If a VPN provider protects your traffic from |
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'people', who protects your traffic from the ... VPN people?! LOL! |
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I don't use VPNs, but the interwebs are buzzing with reviews and suggestions. |
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If torrenting is a requirement, then associated forums and mailing lists would |
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provide advice on what works best for your use case. |
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