Gentoo Archives: gentoo-user

From: Christopher Robinson <chrisrobinson@××××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New Install
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 22:14:19
Message-Id: 290906285.4196379.1474755243136@mail.yahoo.com
1 I was not referring to screenshots as you well know but the unwarranted commnets at the end
2 --------------------------------------------
3 On Sat, 9/24/16, J. Roeleveld <joost@××××××××.org> wrote:
4
5 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New Install
6 To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
7 Date: Saturday, September 24, 2016, 5:59 PM
8
9 On September 24, 2016
10 11:53:05 PM GMT+02:00, Christopher Robinson <chrisrobinson@××××××××××.com>
11 wrote:
12 >If I got paid for every person I
13 had to enlighten about their snarky
14 >comments, I could retire
15 >myself
16
17 You
18 are either trying to be funny or have an obvious lack of
19 understanding about humanity.
20
21 I was simply pointing out that screenshots are
22 not the most useful tool i  describing a process that is
23 subject to fast changes. Especially as most people tend to
24 expect the screenshots to match reality.
25
26 If you think most people will understand that
27 screenshots don't necessarily match what is displayed on
28 screen and can easily adapt, you are either very young or
29 have been living under a rock.
30
31 --
32 Joost
33
34
35 >--------------------------------------------
36 >On Sat, 9/24/16, J. Roeleveld <joost@××××××××.org>
37 wrote:
38 >
39 > Subject:
40 Re: [gentoo-user] New Install
41 > To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
42 > Date: Saturday, September 24, 2016, 5:49
43 PM
44 >
45 > On September
46 24, 2016
47 >11:42:23 PM GMT+02:00,
48 Christopher Robinson
49 ><chrisrobinson@××××××××××.com>
50 > wrote:
51 > >Joost you
52 should not be
53 > responding to people
54 seeking help. Your
55 > >attititude is
56 offensive.
57 >
58 > Please
59 do enlighten us. What
60 > part of the email
61 you are responding to is offensive?
62 >
63 >
64 >
65 >
66 >
67 >
68 >--------------------------------------------
69 > >On Sat, 9/24/16, J. Roeleveld <joost@××××××××.org>
70 > wrote:
71 > >
72 > > Subject:
73 > Re:
74 [gentoo-user] New Install
75 > > To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
76 > > Date: Saturday, September 24, 2016,
77 5:36
78 > PM
79 > >
80 > > On September
81 > 24,
82 2016
83 > > 11:29:59 PM GMT+02:00,
84 Joachim
85 > Gwoke <joachimgwoke@×××××.com>
86 > > wrote:
87 > >
88 >On 25 Sep
89 > 2016 12:19 a.m.,
90 > > "Dale"
91 >
92 <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
93 > > wrote:
94 > >
95 >>
96 > > >> J.
97 > > Roeleveld
98 >
99 wrote:
100 > > >> > On
101 September
102 > > 24, 2016 10:54:56 PM
103 GMT+02:00, Dale
104 > > ><rdalek1967@×××××.com>
105 > > >wrote:
106 > >
107 >>
108 > >>
109 >
110 > Well, you said you hadn't
111 > set
112 up any users and their
113 > >
114 passwords.
115 >
116 > >
117 >That
118 > > >>
119 > >> is
120 > >
121 >>
122 > > >> part of the
123 install process and
124 > is in the
125 guide. 
126 > > You are told to
127 > > >set
128 > >
129 >>
130 > >> up
131 > > >>
132 > >
133 >> the root password in one section
134 > and to set up a
135 > >
136 user and its
137 > > >password
138 > > >>
139 >
140 >> in another section.  At the
141 >
142 >
143 > very least, you missed those two
144 parts
145 > >
146 >
147 >and
148 > > >> >> that
149 > > isn't a assumption, it's
150 based on
151 > what you posted. 
152 > > What else
153 > >
154 >you
155 > > >>
156 > > >> missed I'm not sure and
157 most
158 > likely, no one
159 > > else is either. 
160 > Rich
161 > > >>
162 >>
163 > > posted
164 > > >>
165 >
166 >> that he thinks you
167 > > missed
168 a
169 > whole section which may or may not
170 be
171 > >
172 > >>
173 >> correct but we do know you
174 >
175 > missed at least a couple steps  Given
176 > > >enough
177 > >
178 >>
179 > >>
180 >
181 > information, someone may be
182 > able
183 to figure it out tho.
184 > > >>
185 > > Dale,
186 > >
187 >>
188 > > >
189 >
190 > >> >
191 > You should know
192 better.
193 > > Please
194 > don't make it worse by top-posting
195 > >
196 > >even
197 > > >more.
198 >
199 >
200 > >> >
201 >
202 > >> >
203 > > >From what I
204 understand from this
205 > nightmare of a
206 messy
207 > > thread, the
208 > > >OP
209 > >
210 >seems
211 > > to be looking for an
212 > install-script/tool.
213 >
214 > >> > This
215 > does not exist
216 other than
217 > > the simple to
218 > follow handbook.
219 > >
220 >>
221 > > >
222 >
223 > >> >
224 > --
225 > > >> > Joost
226 > > >>
227 > >
228 >
229 > > >> >
230 > >
231 > >>
232 > > >> Well, as you
233 > > know, I never top post unless it is a
234 new
235 > person that
236 >
237 > >> starts it.  The
238 > only
239 reason I do it
240 > > then is because
241 > most likely the
242 > >
243 >>
244 > > person on the other end
245 has no choice but
246 > too.  It's
247 > > likely why no
248 >
249 > >one
250 > > >> has
251 > mentioned this.  For all we know,
252 > > he
253 > may be doing
254 this with a
255 > > >>
256 > limited
257 > > cell
258 phone.  Who knows.  For
259 > the normal
260 situations tho,
261 > > I
262 > > >bottom
263 > >
264 >>
265 > post
266 > >
267 as you know or do it inline.  I
268 > will
269 be glad when he gets
270 > > it
271 > > >sorted
272 > >
273 >>
274 > out
275 > >
276 and can actually set it up to be
277 >
278 mailing list friendly. 
279 > > Top
280 > > >> posting, multiple threads
281 and
282 > > all makes it hard to
283 follow.
284 > > >>
285 > > >>
286 > I'm
287 beginning to think the same
288 > >
289 > thing.  Here we thought he was
290 > >
291 > >further
292 > > >> into the
293 > > install and just missed a few
294 > steps/section and now
295 >
296 > I'm
297 > > >> beginning to
298 think he has
299 > > only booted the
300 install media and wants
301 > a
302 > > >> installer command. 
303 Maybe
304 > he will
305 > >
306 post something that will help
307 > us
308 > > >help
309 > >
310 > >> him.  Maybe.  I thought I had
311 a
312 > > rough idea but based on a
313 recent
314 > > >post,
315 > > >> we
316 > may
317 be
318 > > all wrong on where he is in
319 this
320 > process.
321 > >
322 >>
323 > >
324 >
325 >> Dale
326 > > >>
327 > > >> :-)  :-)
328 > >
329 > >>
330 > > >
331 > >
332 > >Apologies for starting the top
333 posting,
334 > > >
335 >
336 > >I had
337 > earlier
338 > > suggested using
339 >
340 > >http://www.tecmint.com/gentoo-linux-installation-guide/
341 > > and the Gentoo
342 >
343 >
344 > >handbook side by
345 > > side.
346 > >
347 >The link provided has the option
348 >
349 > of using the LiveDVD. I do not know at
350 > > >what stage the install failed but
351 it
352 > might
353 > > be
354 easier to start over.
355 > > >
356 > > >Regards
357 > >
358 >Joachim
359 > >
360 >
361 > I had a quick look at that
362 > >
363 one. (Part 1 only) and it looks like the
364 > old quick install
365 >
366 > guide, but now with
367 >
368 screenshots.
369 > >
370 >
371 >
372 > Screenshots are nice, but are
373 always version
374 > > dependent.
375 > >
376 > > If I would
377 get a
378 > >
379 > penny
380 or cent or whatever is the smallest part of your
381 > local
382 > > currency
383 for every time someone
384 > is completely
385 incapable of
386 > > following an
387 > install guide when only one of the
388 screenshots
389 > > no longer 100% match
390 the guide, I would
391 > have already
392 retired
393 > > to my own little
394 > island in the Pacific...
395 > >
396 > > The
397 screenshots on that link
398 > > seem to
399 be related to a boot CD/DVD dated
400 > to
401 2012 and being
402 > > used to install
403 > Gentoo in 2014.
404 > >
405
406 > > I
407 > expect
408 more confused questions from people
409 >
410 > who are not able to follow simple
411 >
412 instructions if they are
413 > > going
414 to
415 > blindly follow this.
416 > >
417 > > --
418 > > Joost
419 > >
420 > > --
421 > >
422 > > Sent from my Android
423 > device with K-9 Mail.
424 >
425 > Please excuse my
426 > brevity.
427 >
428 >
429 > >
430 >
431 >
432 > --
433 > Sent from
434 > my Android
435 device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my
436 >
437 brevity.
438 >
439 >
440
441
442 --
443 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail.
444 Please excuse my brevity.

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