From: | Christopher Robinson <chrisrobinson@××××××××××.com> |
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To: | gentoo-user@l.g.o |

Subject: | Re: [gentoo-user] New Install |

Date: | Sat, 24 Sep 2016 22:14:19 |

Message-Id: | 290906285.4196379.1474755243136@mail.yahoo.com |

1 | I was not referring to screenshots as you well know but the unwarranted commnets at the end |

2 | -------------------------------------------- |

3 | On Sat, 9/24/16, J. Roeleveld <joost@××××××××.org> wrote: |

4 | |

5 | Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New Install |

6 | To: gentoo-user@l.g.o |

7 | Date: Saturday, September 24, 2016, 5:59 PM |

8 | |

9 | On September 24, 2016 |

10 | 11:53:05 PM GMT+02:00, Christopher Robinson <chrisrobinson@××××××××××.com> |

11 | wrote: |

12 | >If I got paid for every person I |

13 | had to enlighten about their snarky |

14 | >comments, I could retire |

15 | >myself |

16 | |

17 | You |

18 | are either trying to be funny or have an obvious lack of |

19 | understanding about humanity. |

20 | |

21 | I was simply pointing out that screenshots are |

22 | not the most useful tool i describing a process that is |

23 | subject to fast changes. Especially as most people tend to |

24 | expect the screenshots to match reality. |

25 | |

26 | If you think most people will understand that |

27 | screenshots don't necessarily match what is displayed on |

28 | screen and can easily adapt, you are either very young or |

29 | have been living under a rock. |

30 | |

31 | -- |

32 | Joost |

33 | |

34 | |

35 | >-------------------------------------------- |

36 | >On Sat, 9/24/16, J. Roeleveld <joost@××××××××.org> |

37 | wrote: |

38 | > |

39 | > Subject: |

40 | Re: [gentoo-user] New Install |

41 | > To: gentoo-user@l.g.o |

42 | > Date: Saturday, September 24, 2016, 5:49 |

43 | PM |

44 | > |

45 | > On September |

46 | 24, 2016 |

47 | >11:42:23 PM GMT+02:00, |

48 | Christopher Robinson |

49 | ><chrisrobinson@××××××××××.com> |

50 | > wrote: |

51 | > >Joost you |

52 | should not be |

53 | > responding to people |

54 | seeking help. Your |

55 | > >attititude is |

56 | offensive. |

57 | > |

58 | > Please |

59 | do enlighten us. What |

60 | > part of the email |

61 | you are responding to is offensive? |

62 | > |

63 | > |

64 | > |

65 | > |

66 | > |

67 | > |

68 | >-------------------------------------------- |

69 | > >On Sat, 9/24/16, J. Roeleveld <joost@××××××××.org> |

70 | > wrote: |

71 | > > |

72 | > > Subject: |

73 | > Re: |

74 | [gentoo-user] New Install |

75 | > > To: gentoo-user@l.g.o |

76 | > > Date: Saturday, September 24, 2016, |

77 | 5:36 |

78 | > PM |

79 | > > |

80 | > > On September |

81 | > 24, |

82 | 2016 |

83 | > > 11:29:59 PM GMT+02:00, |

84 | Joachim |

85 | > Gwoke <joachimgwoke@×××××.com> |

86 | > > wrote: |

87 | > > |

88 | >On 25 Sep |

89 | > 2016 12:19 a.m., |

90 | > > "Dale" |

91 | > |

92 | <rdalek1967@×××××.com> |

93 | > > wrote: |

94 | > > |

95 | >> |

96 | > > >> J. |

97 | > > Roeleveld |

98 | > |

99 | wrote: |

100 | > > >> > On |

101 | September |

102 | > > 24, 2016 10:54:56 PM |

103 | GMT+02:00, Dale |

104 | > > ><rdalek1967@×××××.com> |

105 | > > >wrote: |

106 | > > |

107 | >> |

108 | > >> |

109 | > |

110 | > Well, you said you hadn't |

111 | > set |

112 | up any users and their |

113 | > > |

114 | passwords. |

115 | > |

116 | > > |

117 | >That |

118 | > > >> |

119 | > >> is |

120 | > > |

121 | >> |

122 | > > >> part of the |

123 | install process and |

124 | > is in the |

125 | guide. |

126 | > > You are told to |

127 | > > >set |

128 | > > |

129 | >> |

130 | > >> up |

131 | > > >> |

132 | > > |

133 | >> the root password in one section |

134 | > and to set up a |

135 | > > |

136 | user and its |

137 | > > >password |

138 | > > >> |

139 | > |

140 | >> in another section. At the |

141 | > |

142 | > |

143 | > very least, you missed those two |

144 | parts |

145 | > > |

146 | > |

147 | >and |

148 | > > >> >> that |

149 | > > isn't a assumption, it's |

150 | based on |

151 | > what you posted. |

152 | > > What else |

153 | > > |

154 | >you |

155 | > > >> |

156 | > > >> missed I'm not sure and |

157 | most |

158 | > likely, no one |

159 | > > else is either. |

160 | > Rich |

161 | > > >> |

162 | >> |

163 | > > posted |

164 | > > >> |

165 | > |

166 | >> that he thinks you |

167 | > > missed |

168 | a |

169 | > whole section which may or may not |

170 | be |

171 | > > |

172 | > >> |

173 | >> correct but we do know you |

174 | > |

175 | > missed at least a couple steps Given |

176 | > > >enough |

177 | > > |

178 | >> |

179 | > >> |

180 | > |

181 | > information, someone may be |

182 | > able |

183 | to figure it out tho. |

184 | > > >> |

185 | > > Dale, |

186 | > > |

187 | >> |

188 | > > > |

189 | > |

190 | > >> > |

191 | > You should know |

192 | better. |

193 | > > Please |

194 | > don't make it worse by top-posting |

195 | > > |

196 | > >even |

197 | > > >more. |

198 | > |

199 | > |

200 | > >> > |

201 | > |

202 | > >> > |

203 | > > >From what I |

204 | understand from this |

205 | > nightmare of a |

206 | messy |

207 | > > thread, the |

208 | > > >OP |

209 | > > |

210 | >seems |

211 | > > to be looking for an |

212 | > install-script/tool. |

213 | > |

214 | > >> > This |

215 | > does not exist |

216 | other than |

217 | > > the simple to |

218 | > follow handbook. |

219 | > > |

220 | >> |

221 | > > > |

222 | > |

223 | > >> > |

224 | > -- |

225 | > > >> > Joost |

226 | > > >> |

227 | > > |

228 | > |

229 | > > >> > |

230 | > > |

231 | > >> |

232 | > > >> Well, as you |

233 | > > know, I never top post unless it is a |

234 | new |

235 | > person that |

236 | > |

237 | > >> starts it. The |

238 | > only |

239 | reason I do it |

240 | > > then is because |

241 | > most likely the |

242 | > > |

243 | >> |

244 | > > person on the other end |

245 | has no choice but |

246 | > too. It's |

247 | > > likely why no |

248 | > |

249 | > >one |

250 | > > >> has |

251 | > mentioned this. For all we know, |

252 | > > he |

253 | > may be doing |

254 | this with a |

255 | > > >> |

256 | > limited |

257 | > > cell |

258 | phone. Who knows. For |

259 | > the normal |

260 | situations tho, |

261 | > > I |

262 | > > >bottom |

263 | > > |

264 | >> |

265 | > post |

266 | > > |

267 | as you know or do it inline. I |

268 | > will |

269 | be glad when he gets |

270 | > > it |

271 | > > >sorted |

272 | > > |

273 | >> |

274 | > out |

275 | > > |

276 | and can actually set it up to be |

277 | > |

278 | mailing list friendly. |

279 | > > Top |

280 | > > >> posting, multiple threads |

281 | and |

282 | > > all makes it hard to |

283 | follow. |

284 | > > >> |

285 | > > >> |

286 | > I'm |

287 | beginning to think the same |

288 | > > |

289 | > thing. Here we thought he was |

290 | > > |

291 | > >further |

292 | > > >> into the |

293 | > > install and just missed a few |

294 | > steps/section and now |

295 | > |

296 | > I'm |

297 | > > >> beginning to |

298 | think he has |

299 | > > only booted the |

300 | install media and wants |

301 | > a |

302 | > > >> installer command. |

303 | Maybe |

304 | > he will |

305 | > > |

306 | post something that will help |

307 | > us |

308 | > > >help |

309 | > > |

310 | > >> him. Maybe. I thought I had |

311 | a |

312 | > > rough idea but based on a |

313 | recent |

314 | > > >post, |

315 | > > >> we |

316 | > may |

317 | be |

318 | > > all wrong on where he is in |

319 | this |

320 | > process. |

321 | > > |

322 | >> |

323 | > > |

324 | > |

325 | >> Dale |

326 | > > >> |

327 | > > >> :-) :-) |

328 | > > |

329 | > >> |

330 | > > > |

331 | > > |

332 | > >Apologies for starting the top |

333 | posting, |

334 | > > > |

335 | > |

336 | > >I had |

337 | > earlier |

338 | > > suggested using |

339 | > |

340 | > >http://www.tecmint.com/gentoo-linux-installation-guide/ |

341 | > > and the Gentoo |

342 | > |

343 | > |

344 | > >handbook side by |

345 | > > side. |

346 | > > |

347 | >The link provided has the option |

348 | > |

349 | > of using the LiveDVD. I do not know at |

350 | > > >what stage the install failed but |

351 | it |

352 | > might |

353 | > > be |

354 | easier to start over. |

355 | > > > |

356 | > > >Regards |

357 | > > |

358 | >Joachim |

359 | > > |

360 | > |

361 | > I had a quick look at that |

362 | > > |

363 | one. (Part 1 only) and it looks like the |

364 | > old quick install |

365 | > |

366 | > guide, but now with |

367 | > |

368 | screenshots. |

369 | > > |

370 | > |

371 | > |

372 | > Screenshots are nice, but are |

373 | always version |

374 | > > dependent. |

375 | > > |

376 | > > If I would |

377 | get a |

378 | > > |

379 | > penny |

380 | or cent or whatever is the smallest part of your |

381 | > local |

382 | > > currency |

383 | for every time someone |

384 | > is completely |

385 | incapable of |

386 | > > following an |

387 | > install guide when only one of the |

388 | screenshots |

389 | > > no longer 100% match |

390 | the guide, I would |

391 | > have already |

392 | retired |

393 | > > to my own little |

394 | > island in the Pacific... |

395 | > > |

396 | > > The |

397 | screenshots on that link |

398 | > > seem to |

399 | be related to a boot CD/DVD dated |

400 | > to |

401 | 2012 and being |

402 | > > used to install |

403 | > Gentoo in 2014. |

404 | > > |

405 | |

406 | > > I |

407 | > expect |

408 | more confused questions from people |

409 | > |

410 | > who are not able to follow simple |

411 | > |

412 | instructions if they are |

413 | > > going |

414 | to |

415 | > blindly follow this. |

416 | > > |

417 | > > -- |

418 | > > Joost |

419 | > > |

420 | > > -- |

421 | > > |

422 | > > Sent from my Android |

423 | > device with K-9 Mail. |

424 | > |

425 | > Please excuse my |

426 | > brevity. |

427 | > |

428 | > |

429 | > > |

430 | > |

431 | > |

432 | > -- |

433 | > Sent from |

434 | > my Android |

435 | device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my |

436 | > |

437 | brevity. |

438 | > |

439 | > |

440 | |

441 | |

442 | -- |

443 | Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. |

444 | Please excuse my brevity. |

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