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On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 21:00:45 -0500, Taiidan@×××.com wrote: |
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> On 12/10/2018 05:54 PM, Dale wrote: |
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> > Neil Bothwick wrote: |
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> >> On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 16:33:10 -0500, Taiidan@×××.com wrote: |
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> >>>> Not sure which country would be a reliable location though, I |
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> >>>> wouldn't trust Western European countries either. |
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> >>> USA is currently the best option since there have never been proven |
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> >>> backdoors in made in usa hardware but plenty in chinese made hardware |
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> >>> such as the recent motherboard hack chip scandal. |
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> >> So that proves that US manufacturers are better at hiding their back |
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> >> doors? |
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> >> Or is it a numbers game, there are a hell of a lot more systems made in |
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> >> China, so the chances of a backdoor being discovered is higher. |
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> >> Either way, lack of evidence of insecurity is not proof of security. |
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> So tell us what is your perfect country for hardware manufacturing? |
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> Name one other country on earth besides america where you can say no to |
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> a governmental request for a backdoor in your hardware or software |
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> products and not end up in prison. |
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Germany. |
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Whether that is the case or not in the USA is very doubtful. Apple |
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recently had to fight hard against such a demand, but the authorities |
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backed down without the principle being decided upon. |
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> The amd bulldozer and piledriver CPU's like the FX-8350 and its opteron |
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> counterparts are made in germany (the packaging is done in china but at |
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> that point afaik there isn't much that can be done to fuck with it) but |
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> that still wouldn't satisfy you since germany doesn't have anything like |
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> the constitution - they have no freedom of speech. |
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Er, steady on, PLEASE! Germany HAS a constitution, and freedom of speech |
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is a prominent part of that. It is backed up by the constitutional court |
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at Karlsruhe, which is known for ruling against authorities' powers |
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relatively frequently. What's more, unlike in the USA, there is an |
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explicit constitutional right to privacy, which is taken very seriously, |
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particularly after the abuses by the state security in the former German |
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Democratic Republic. |
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None of which means that the German security services don't get up to |
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dirty tricks, of course. |
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Before coming out with any such ignorant falsehoods in the future, I |
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would recommend you at least to consult Wikipedia, or such like. |
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Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany). |
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