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From: Meino.Cramer@×××.de
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 07:32:46
Message-Id: 20150426073235.GB4390@solfire
In Reply to: [gentoo-user] Re: And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin... by Martin Vaeth
1 Martin Vaeth <martin@×××××.de> [15-04-26 08:56]:
2 > Meino.Cramer@×××.de <Meino.Cramer@×××.de> wrote:
3 > > A novice asks the master Emerge:
4 > > "Is there Zen also in every upgrade, which will serve to Gentoo?"
5 >
6 > Did the novice ask the correct question about the life, the world,
7 > and everything? Your mantra should be
8 > emerge -NaDu @world
9 > (--with-bdeps=y in EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS in /etc/portage/make.conf)
10 >
11 > I am asking, because it seems that the novice's question did
12 > not contain the question/permission about upgrading xorg-server:
13 >
14 > >: required by (x11-base/xorg-server-1.12.4-r4:0/1.12.4::gentoo
15 >
16 > If the question was correct, the master means:
17 > "Thou shalt not use ancient xorg-server or thou shalt be doomed."
18 >
19 > Have you masked newer xorg-server or are you using drivers which
20 > require this like e.g. ancient (now masked in portage)
21 > nvidia legacy drivers?
22 > In the latter case you are doomed...
23 > I also had to throw out recently an nvidia card because of this.
24 > Of course, this is what nvidia wants you to force to.
25 > This is why my new machine does not have an nvidia card anymore.
26 >
27 >
28
29 :)
30
31 ...and the novice, who deeply dig into the great mysterious machine
32 before, pulls out an ancient script, which shows
33
34 [I] media-video/nvidia-settings
35 Available versions: 331.20 (~)340.58 (~)343.22 {examples}
36 Installed versions: 343.22(15:39:16 11/16/14)(-examples)
37 Homepage: http://www.nvidia.com/
38 Description: NVIDIA Linux X11 Settings Utility
39
40 According to the hieroglyphs engraved on the pages of that script,
41 the all mighty nvidia daemon is damn new (how can this stated by
42 an ancient script?...ah! wait...great Albert once said: "Time is relative!")
43 But the same script states:
44
45 [I] x11-base/xorg-server
46 Available versions: 1.12.4-r4(0/1.12.4) [m]1.15.2-r2(0/1.15.2) [m]1.16.4(0/1.16.1) [m]~1.16.4-r1(0/1.16.1) [m]~1.16.4-r2(0/1.16.1) [m]~1.17.1(0/1.17.1) [m]~1.17.1-r1(0/1.17.1) {dmx doc glamor ipv6 kdrive minimal nptl selinux static-libs +suid systemd tslib +udev unwind wayland xephyr xnest xorg xvfb}
47 Installed versions: 1.12.4-r4(17:47:13 04/25/15)(ipv6 nptl udev xnest xorg xvfb -dmx -doc -kdrive -minimal -selinux -static-libs -tslib)
48 Homepage: http://xorg.freedesktop.org/
49 Description: X.Org X servers
50
51 It is not the newest one the novice recognized then -- but
52 it is still offered by master Emerge to all his novices.
53
54 The novice is bound to the Gates of Nvidia, since he also
55 worship the great Blender (3D).
56
57 And suddenly the novice was struck by something -- enlightenement
58 or not -- which whispers to his soul saying "Shutdown X, remove
59 the server, install the newer server and you will be freed!"
60
61 To be a follower of this temptations or not to be a follower -- that
62 is the question!
63
64
65 Where will he go from here?

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