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On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 10:35 PM, Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk> wrote: |
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> On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 15:25:07 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: |
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> > > The current Gentoo policy is that maintainers cannot block other devs |
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> > > from adding support for systemd/openrc/etc to their packages if they |
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> > > lack such support. Gentoo policy does NOT require maintainers to |
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> > > support any particular init system. |
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> > > If you feel otherwise, I suggest you cite the policy. |
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> > Interesting... packages don't have to support the default init system... |
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> > Can anyone say 'can of worms'? |
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> Well, if it goes the way Rich suggests, there won't be a default init |
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> system so this won't be an issue. |
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> Gentoo is about choice, defaults are there for when you can't be bothered |
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> to make the choice yourself, which makes defaults largely irrelevant in |
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> the Gentoo way of doing things. |
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> And if the default init system does become virtual/init, will you care or |
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> even notice? It was only when installing a new system recently that I saw |
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> that the default for virtual/cron was no longer vixie-cron, yet none of |
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> my systems using vixie stopped working... |
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> The choice will always be there as long as at least one person cares |
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> enough to ensure the choice is there. |
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Choice can be for components that are optional or drop-in-replacements. |
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It like you have expected that alternate gcc or libc will be a |
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*STABLE* choice, while developers a not using these "choices". |
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Systemd is not drop-in-replacement for init.d, and if developers |
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(except gnome) are not using it, then this choice is stable for gnome |
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users but no more than that, thus marking it as stable in the global |
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profile was at least "strange", also not having USE flag for openrc |
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and systemd was at least "strange", pushing users files and components |
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they do not use nor require. |
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As written before, Gentoo seems the only refuge from the systemd |
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ecosystem take over, once it is taken, it will be good time to move to |
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FreeBSD. People should had have -systemd USE to make sure they are not |
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using this ecosystem, this is one of the loses we had. |
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Alon |
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