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From: R0b0t1 <r030t1@×××××.com>
To: vnsndalce@××××××××.net
Cc: gentoo-user@l.g.o, ubuntu-users@××××××××××××.com, linux-kernel@×××××××××××.org, debian-user@××××××××××××.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Thank you for your insight.
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2018 21:49:58
1 Thank you for the response, though I feel you don't address my
2 question. Happily though, I spoke with an acquaintance and it was
3 determined that the subservience to the license (i.e. agreeing to be
4 bound by the GPL2) could not be offered as consideration as its
5 restrictions were not the licensee's to offer at the time of
6 acceptance of the license. The licensee had no rights to offer as part
7 of the contract, as the contract had not yet given them any rights to
8 give up. The terms put forth by the GPL2 are only restrictions that
9 are part of the license.
11 Furthermore, as stated above, it should seem quite self referential -
12 I can't offer my acceptance of a license as consideration, because it
13 is what I am trying to accept.
15 As I am sure you are aware, under US law there is no contract if both
16 sides have not provided consideration. This leaves us in the strange
17 place of gratis licenses being suggestions.
19 Cheers,
20 R0b0t1
22 On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 12:47 PM <vnsndalce@××××××××.net> wrote:
23 >
24 > Thank you for your insight.
25 >
26 > It is a shame that there were no responses. They ignored your post, then
27 > kept baying at me: "no this is wrong" "you're not a lawyer" "I will not
28 > lower myself to refute you with arguments!".
29 >
30 > As for non-monetary consideration to support an additional no-revocation
31 > term:
32 > Many of the old linux-kernel (programmer)rights-holders have received
33 > nothing, and have made no such promise.
34 > Many of the contributors (who did not transfer their rights) have
35 > received nothing.
36 >
37 > There is nothing to uphold the contention that they have forfeited their
38 > default right to rescind license to their property.
39 > They never made such a promise, they were never paid for such a promise,
40 > they never contracted for such, etc.
41 >
42 > They wrote code, licensed it gratuitously,
43 > and now an attempt is being made to both control their speech, their
44 > action, and to basically convert their property.
45 >
46 > Most of the entities who have been licensed the works have neither paid
47 > anything to the various rights-holders,
48 > nor have they ever contacted nor been contacted by the various
49 > rights-holders, etc.
50 >


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