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From: "Bruce Hill
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and permissions problems
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 12:58:49
Message-Id: 741770489.812672.1332075397512.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and permissions problems by pk
1 On March 18, 2012 at 6:22 AM pk <peterk2@××××××××.se> wrote:
2
3 > On 2012-03-18 04:11, Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote:
4 >
5 > > Am I eternally confused?
6 >
7 > I have no idea... besides, eternity is a long time... ;-)
8 >
9 > > su - change user ID or become superuser
10 > >
11 > > It's not _only_ to become root (maybe theoretically if you only have
12 one
13 > > normal user). On a true multiuser system you can su (switch user) to
14 any
15 > > user.
16 >
17 > Yes, correct. Sorry if this was implied; I only talked about Dales
18 > specific problem...
19 >
20 > > Since _every_ computer I own or have _ever_ built has -pam globally,
21 pam is
22 > > not a requirement to use su ... is it?
23 >
24 > Nope. Again, I was only trying to help Dale... If su is owned by
25 > 'root.root' (user.group) I assumed that it's execution was controlled by
26 > something else since it otherwise should be owned by 'root.wheel'
27 > (unless you're part of the 'root' group, which I don't think is
28 > recommended). If you're not running pam then I assume your 'su' is owned
29 > by 'root.wheel'?
30 > Best regards
31 >
32 > Peter K
33 >
34
35
36 The ownership is not changed, with user(s) where it's necessary (never on
37 servers) in the wheel group.
38
39 mingdao@t420 ~ $ ls -l /bin/su
40 -rws--x--x 1 root root 53440 Oct 7 07:00 /bin/su
41 mingdao@t420 ~ $ ls -l /usr/bin/sudo
42 ---s--x--x 2 root root 71144 Feb 22 06:34 /usr/bin/sudo
43
44 # less /etc/sudoers
45 <snip>
46 ## Same thing without a password
47 %wheel ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
48 <snip>
49
50 mingdao@t420 ~ $ id uid=1000(mingdao) gid=1000(mingdao)
51 groups=1000(mingdao),7(lp),10(wheel),16(cron),18(audio),19(cdrom),27(video),80(cdrw),85(usb),100(users),250(portage)
52
53 The 'stuff' happens when you issue "visudo" and edit the above file. I've
54 never studied this on Gentoo, but also have:
55 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 180696 Feb 22 06:34 /usr/lib64/sudo/sudoers.so
56
57 Meh ... too much to learn for an old dog like me.
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