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From: Joost Roeleveld <joost@××××××××.org>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] portage no longer in world?
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 07:02:27
Message-Id: 2869342.fEUaxx5Gt2@eve
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] portage no longer in world? by Alan McKinnon
1 On Thursday, August 04, 2011 12:10:25 AM Alan McKinnon wrote:
2 > On Wed 03 August 2011 17:44:08 Willie Wong did opine thusly:
3 > > On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 01:38:58PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
4 > > > It's sensible really - portage is not the only package manager
5 > > > out there and therefore should not be in @system. The user did
6 > > > not put portage in world, and did not use -D, so portage is not
7 > > > updating the package.
8 > > >
9 > > > The solution is simple - all users should put their preferred
10 > > > package manager into world and what Stroller is seeing will
11 > > > stop happening.
12 > > >
13 > > > Zac can't force portage into system like he could with less and
14 > > > nano and have few or non side-effects. A virtual package
15 > > > manager only says that you *have* one, not *which* one. So as
16 > > > usual for Gentoo, the user gets to tell the software which one
17 > > > it is.
18 > > >
19 > > > I don't see a problem.
20 > >
21 > > Though it is silly IMHO that portage would want to remove itself
22 > > with depclean. Could it not be hardcoded into portage that it
23 > > should try to keep itself updated and not commit suicide?
24 > > (Independently of the @system sets.)
25 >
26 > What about replacing portage with paludis? In your scenario, portage
27 > could not do that.
28
29 It would be possible by:
30 1) emerge paludiis
31 2) paludis - delete portage (I don't know Paludis, so not sure of the exact
32 syntax)
33
34 This would then be a safer way of doing things as you'd always have at least 1
35 package manager installed.
36
37 --
38 Joost

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Re: [gentoo-user] portage no longer in world? Matthew Finkel <matthew.finkel@×××××.com>