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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] External hard drive and idle activity
Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2020 16:08:45
Message-Id: CAGfcS_kW1vqJ14cXuWrOunMNAPco4DS9qTdUgqf9EtCKPsf=yA@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] External hard drive and idle activity by Dale
1 On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 10:05 AM Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote:
2 >
3 > The drive I have is likely
4 > done on the drive itself, device managed, which is good for me.
5
6 Really the ideal situation are the Host Aware drives. I have no idea
7 what percentage of the markets they make. They fall back to being
8 device managed if the host doesn't do anything to manage them.
9
10 Your drive is device managed. See the link I posted earlier to the mfr info.
11
12 > I've been noticing that too. Only bad thing is, I can't always tell
13 > what is in the enclosure. Sometimes the info is given but sometimes
14 > not. I've also seen a few people complain that what they got was not
15 > the model of drive they thought.
16
17 Yeah, there are no guarantees as to what you'll get if you go the
18 shucking route. If you absolutely need a certain amount of cache or a
19 red firmware then you're just going to have to pay double to get that
20 guarantee.
21
22 For my application I'd definitely prefer the red firmware, but it
23 isn't really the end of the world if the drive takes a few seconds to
24 timeout on that one failure every 5 years. I'm not going to pay
25 double just to guarantee a particular model. If it were $20 more that
26 would be another matter, but we're talking $180 vs $350 here.
27
28 The other gotcha is that if you want to do a warranty replacement at
29 some point you're going to have to put it back in the enclosure to do
30 so. That means hanging onto enclosures, and is of course a bit of a
31 pain besides. Again, with a 50% reduction in cost you'd need to have
32 a lot of drive failures to be worth worrying about, especially since I
33 believe drive warranties are getting shorter anyway.
34
35 If you're in a typical enterprise situation then you're going to want
36 to just buy the bare drives with the standard warranty/etc. If you
37 buy in bulk chances are you're getting a discount anyway (and then
38 maybe you can get them in caddies or whatever). The Best Buy deals
39 are sporadic anyway and limited in quantity - you could never run a
40 data center that way. That's why they're priced the way they are...
41
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43 Rich