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From: Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Easiest way to block domains?
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2017 01:31:07
Message-Id: f7692bb9-c9f6-79e4-2592-4a454bb138a2@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Easiest way to block domains? by Rich Freeman
1 Rich Freeman wrote:
2 > On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Walter Dnes <waltdnes@××××××××.org> wrote:
3 >> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 09:19:00AM -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote
4 >>> On 2017-08-31 08:47, Walter Dnes wrote:
5 >>>
6 >>>> 1) To protect my gear against power surges/spikes/drops
7 >>>> 2) To protect against the rare occurence when power goes off for 1
8 >>>> or 2 seconds
9 >>> I do the same. Or at least I did until last week, when the UPS died
10 >>> after more than a decade of perfect service. (Here, the outages are
11 >>> longer than 2 seconds; it's not often, but is very annoying when it
12 >>> happens, with the UPS square wave beeps.)
13 >> I just had a second look at your message. Did you say your UPS puts
14 >> out ***SQUARE WAVES***? That is very bad for consumer grade electrical
15 >> stuff.
16 >>
17 > He said the beeps were square waves. That is roughly what mine sound
18 > like, though mine is a sine-wave UPS.
19 >
20 > A lot of stuff can handle square wave power output, though PFC power
21 > supplies don't like it as I understand things. I think most of the
22 > cheaper UPSs on the market still put out fairly raw inverter output.
23 >
24
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26 I can tell you one thing that doesn't like square wave or the modified
27 square waves some UPSs put out. The air pump for a fish tank. The ones
28 I had and tried to run off a UPS when we had a large power failure would
29 not run off the UPS. Generator, fine. UPS, not happening. I was told
30 that if one hooks up a 120v>120v transformer, it will work. I never
31 tested that but according to the person that told me that, it changes
32 the wave enough that it is more like a sine wave, since transformers
33 don't recreate square to well. It makes sense that it would work.
34
35 Also, some AC motors won't run off of it either. They have a name for
36 the type of motor but can't recall what it is. I think the compressors
37 in a fridge/freezer will run off that tho. Then again, may vary by
38 model. Our little small fans, won't run but they do get hot pretty
39 quick. o_O
40
41 Since power outages are not so often nowadays, I depend on the surge
42 protection in my UPS more than I do the backup power. Both of my UPSs
43 have a LOT of MOVs in them. I put new batteries in my old UPS last
44 month. Third set of batteries in that thing. It's pretty old but works
45 well.
46
47 Odd how some things work and some don't.
48
49 Dale
50
51 :-) :-)

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