Gentoo Archives: gentoo-user

From: Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New Install
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 22:24:46
Message-Id: 20160924232432.5ada428c@digimed.co.uk
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] New Install by Christopher Robinson
1 On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 20:43:58 +0000 (UTC), Christopher Robinson wrote:
2
3 > Funny how you used XXX when I SPECIFCALLY mentioned mentioned the LIVE
4 > DVD as opposed to the minimal install cd. That was the whole point
5 > which you missed in jumping to conclusions about my ignorance.
6
7 I know you mentioned a specific CD, I just typed XXX to save going back
8 through the broken threads to find the actual disc you referred to.
9 However it should be clear that my initial response was relevant to the
10 disc you mentioned as I quoted that particular question, and nothing
11 else, n my initial response.
12
13 I offered advice to you, which you were free to accept, reject or to
14 respond to with abuse. Based on your choice, you will be pleased to know
15 that I won't be wasting any more of my time or yours by responding
16 further.
17
18 > --------------------------------------------
19 > On Sat, 9/24/16, Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk> wrote:
20 >
21 > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New Install
22 > To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
23 > Date: Saturday, September 24, 2016, 4:38 PM
24 >
25 > On Sat, 24 Sep 2016
26 > 20:31:13 +0000 (UTC), Christopher Robinson wrote:
27 >
28 > > You are giving a generic
29 > answer to what you see as a generic question.
30 > > I really can't  play 20 questions by
31 > repeating over until the light
32 > > comes
33 > on.
34 >
35 > I'm sorry, but
36 > "Can I install from disc XXX?" is a generic
37 > question.
38 >
39 > The more specific
40 > and detailed the question, the more specific and
41 > detailed the answers. But the response was
42 > given freely and it's entirely
43 > up to you
44 > what you do with it.
45 >
46 >
47 > --------------------------------------------
48 > > On Sat, 9/24/16, Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk>
49 > wrote:
50 > >
51 > >  Subject:
52 > Re: [gentoo-user] New Install
53 > >  To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
54 > >  Date: Saturday, September 24, 2016, 4:21
55 > PM
56 > > 
57 > >  On Sat, 24
58 > Sep 2016
59 > >  15:05:24 +0000 (UTC),
60 > Christopher Robinson wrote:
61 > > 
62 > >  > Honestly, your reply is 
63 > >  not helpful. I have read through the
64 > the
65 > >  > handbook and the directions
66 > there do not 
67 > >  match the screen
68 > results.
69 > > 
70 > > 
71 > You'd need to be more specific about
72 > >  that.
73 > > 
74 > >  > I
75 > >  > take
76 > offense at your arrogant tone in 
77 > > 
78 > reply to a beginners request for
79 > > 
80 > >  I wasn't trying to be offensive.
81 > > 
82 > >  > help.While
83 > those with 
84 > >  experience may find my
85 > request naive, I went to
86 > >  > the
87 > list for suggestions beyond the 
88 > > 
89 > handbook.Also, you confuse the two
90 > > 
91 > > 
92 > >  parts of my question in your
93 > smackdown.
94 > > 
95 > > 
96 > Firstly, it wasn't a smackdown. Secondly,
97 > >  you asked two separate
98 > >  questions. I only
99 > > 
100 > tried to answer one of them, which is why I quoted only
101 > >  one.
102 > > 
103 > >  As has
104 > >  been
105 > mentioned elsewhere, your problem was caused by missing
106 > >  a
107 > >  step. The point
108 > I was trying to make is
109 > >  that it is
110 > important to follow
111 > >  the handbook
112 > >  carefully, so the advice was to read it
113 > fully before
114 > >  attempting to follow it.
115 > Reading it and
116 > >  following it at the
117 > same time is
118 > >  asking for
119 > >  trouble.
120 > > 
121 > >  Experience has
122 > > 
123 > shown that a large proportion of new user install
124 > >  problems are caused by a failure to
125 > follow the
126 > >  handbook correctly.
127 > >  Sometimes this is caused
128 > >  by someone thinking they know better and
129 > taking
130 > >  a shortcut but more often it
131 > is simply a
132 > >  moaater of a mistake
133 > or
134 > >  misunderstanding
135 > >  somewhere.
136 > > 
137 > > 
138 > >  > Sorry 
139 > >  for the annoyance and
140 > >  > possibleviolation 
141 > >  of list protocol, but I expected a bit
142 > more support.
143 > >  >
144 > >  >     On 
145 > >  Saturday, September 24, 2016 9:47 AM,
146 > Neil Bothwick
147 > >  > <neil@××××××××××.uk> 
148 >
149 > >  wrote:
150 > >  >
151 >
152 > >  >  On Sat, 
153 > >  24 Sep 2016 12:13:00 +0000 (UTC),
154 > Christopher Robinson
155 > >  wrote:
156 > >  >   
157 > >  > > Also, 
158 > >  I read that it is possible to install
159 > Gentoo from the
160 > >  Live
161 > >  > > DVD.How do I do
162 > that?    
163 > >  >
164 > >  > You need to read 
165 > >  chapter 1 of the Gentoo handbook from
166 > start to finish,
167 > >  > then read it
168 > again. When you understand 
169 > >  what is
170 > going on, you then boot
171 > >  > from 
172 >
173 > >  the live DVD and follow the
174 > installation instructions fro
175 > >  the
176 > >  > handbook.
177 > > 
178 > >
179 > >  >   
180 > > 
181 > > 
182 > > 
183 > > 
184 > >  --
185 > >  Neil
186 > Bothwick
187 > > 
188 > >  I
189 > distinctly remember forgetting
190 > >  that.
191 > >
192 >
193 >
194 >
195 >
196 > --
197 > Neil Bothwick
198 >
199 > Never sleep with anyone crazier than
200 > yourself.
201 >
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207 Neil Bothwick
208
209 The thrill of victory, the agony of delete.