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On 30/11/14 07:30, Marc Stuermer wrote: |
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> Am 29.11.2014 um 11:11 schrieb Pandu Poluan: |
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>> What do you think, people? Shouldn't we offer them our eudev project to |
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>> assist? |
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> After studying their home pages so far I came to the conclusion, that I |
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> cannot take "Devuan" serious. It still feels more like a prank to me |
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> than a serious thing. |
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> First the name "Veteran Unix Admins collective" sounds strange. Nobody |
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> ever heared of them before, they don't have any kind of information on |
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> the web before that announcement of the fork showed up. |
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> Second: they are already asking for donations. |
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> Third, but most important reason: no names on their f***ing pages. Why? |
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> If I would fork a project I would mention popular names right from the |
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> beginning to gain a serious momentum! This has not happened here at all. |
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> Who are those people? Whose behind this so called "fork"? That's a thing |
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> that's still lurking somewhere in the shadows. |
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> Especially the fact, that they don't mention any names at all on their |
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> project pages is something that's really strange to say at last. |
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> So unless those people behind the shadows are coming out of the dark and |
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> going to solidify it's just something many people would like to happen, |
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> of course - but without any substance at all. |
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> That's why I am skeptical about all of this created buzz around it and |
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> seriously doubt if they are going to be able to deliver. |
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maybe, maybe not. |
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I read "Veteran Unix Admins collective" as a category that old style |
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admin types fall into - the background being that systemd is essentially |
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the old guard, do things based on experience and good practice vs the |
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new guard whose use case is throw away vm's that are not expected to |
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hang around, we don't care" amateurs. I am a native English speaker, |
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maybe that's why you missed it? |
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They do make the point that they didn't really have a long term plan to |
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fork ... they tried to work within the system but have just now decided |
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that its not going to work so "fork". I think its a case of watch this |
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space as they are just getting organised and have a lot to attend to at |
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very short notice. |
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Implications? - will gentoo fork if push comes to shove? - using this |
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example I hope so ... I am already really annoyed that by default |
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systemd and apps designed to work with it leave traces on openrc based |
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systems. |
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