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On 11/10/2014 7:30 AM, Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote: |
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> Well, there are no plans to make udev stop working without systemd as |
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> far as I can tell. HOWEVER, there ARE plans to require using kdbus to |
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> communicate with udev, and for that to work there needs to be a |
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> userspace initialization of kdbus/etc. |
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So... you're saying I'm mis-reading this: |
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> Unless the systemd-haters prepare another kdbus userspace until then |
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> this will effectively also mean that we will not support non-systemd |
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> systems with udev anymore starting at that point. Gentoo folks, this |
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> is your wakeup call. |
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and that it doesn't mean that "udev will stop working without systemd", |
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or, as Lennart said, "... we will not support non-systemd systems with |
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udev anymore staryting at that point (when udev is moved onto kdbus as |
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transport)? |
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Or... maybe eudev (or mdev, or both) could or would have to be |
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[re]written so as to be fulfill the 'kdbus userspace' role Lennart |
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mentions above? |
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Being 'not a dev' (or programmer at all), I guess it is entirely |
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possible it isn't as bad as it sounds, but his "Gentoo folks, this is |
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your wake-up call." comment is what really stands out to me, as a gentoo |
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user. |
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I don't care about dbus/kdbus - if it is in the kernel, and under Linus' |
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control, and I need to enable it to use my systems, that is fine with |
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me. What I want is to always have the option - a *stable* option - to |
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not have to install/use systemd if I don't want to. |
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