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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: how to remove HAL
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:26:22
Message-Id: 201007282322.27601.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-user] Re: how to remove HAL by Nikos Chantziaras
1 On Wednesday 28 July 2010 23:08:45 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
2 > On 07/28/2010 11:54 PM, Andrey Vul wrote:
3 > > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 14:50, Nikos Chantziaras<realnc@×××××.de> wrote:
4 > >> On 07/28/2010 08:23 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
5 > >>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:31:21 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
6 > >>>> And why do you want to remove it in the first place? It's not gonna
7 > >>>> eat your cat.
8 > >>>
9 > >>> Although it may kill your crew.
10 > >>
11 > >> I think most people don't understand what X used HAL for. They think
12 > >> that they can remove HAL and still have stuff like USB
13 > >> hotplugging/automounting working. But that's wrong. Gnome/KDE use HAL
14 > >> for this, not X. And if you disable HAL completely, that stuff will
15 > >> stop working.
16 > >
17 > > E.g. solid-hardware for HAL-mounting devices by uuid/volume-id.
18 > >
19 > > I just got rid of policykit - too much trouble.
20 > > But I kept HAL because it's very useful.
21 >
22 > If you're on KDE, you will need policykit again in the future, since
23 > with KDE 4.5 (to be released in a matter of days) it's not really
24 > optional anymore. I got hit by this when updating to it (now at RC3):
25 >
26 > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=244444
27
28 Something tells me the kde.org admins didn't *really* intend to show me all
29 this info:
30
31 Software error:
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33 DBD::mysql::db selectrow_array failed: Unknown table engine 'InnoDB' [for
34 Statement "SELECT bug_id FROM bugs WHERE bug_id = ?"] at Bugzilla/Bug.pm line
35 3366
36 Bugzilla::Bug::ValidateBugID(244444) called at
37 /home/bugzilla/public_html/show_bug.cgi line 62
38
39 For help, please send mail to the webmaster (sysadmin@×××.org), giving this
40 error message and the time and date of the error.
41
42 tut, tut, kde.org. Big fail. Need to learn how to trap errors properly.
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46 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com