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From: Florian Philipp <lists@×××××××××××.net>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Which desktop antivirus?
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 09:08:06
Message-Id: 4EA3D91B.2060006@binarywings.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Which desktop antivirus? by Mick
1 Am 23.10.2011 09:49, schrieb Mick:
2 > On Saturday 22 Oct 2011 22:30:45 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
3 >> Am Samstag 22 Oktober 2011, 18:14:32 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras:
4 >>> On 10/22/2011 05:07 PM, Adam Carter wrote:
5 >>>>> there aren't any Linux viruses,
6 >>>>
7 >>>> Except for the ones listed on the page below, which is probably
8 >>>> incomplete. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware
9 >>>>
10 >>>> But yeah, on a linux desktop (especially a Gentoo one) you don't need
11 >>>> a virus scanner. Yet.
12 >>>
13 >>> There are literally *millions* of Windows viruses. The Wikipedia page
14 >>> just proves Linux has virtually no viruses, and those listed don't even
15 >>> work anymore (exploits have been patched long ago.) Most existing Linux
16 >>> malware targets servers (like PHP software exploits in forums, wikis,
17 >>> etc) and desktop users don't need to worry.
18 >>>
19 >>> Furthermore, even if there were enough Linux viruses to worry about,
20 >>> there isn't a good way of getting infected. On Windows, you download
21 >>> random executables from the net. On Gentoo, you install your stuff
22 >>> through portage. It's nearly impossible to get infected.
23 >>
24 >> except when someone puts up or takes over a rsync server and starts
25 >> providing malicious ebuilds.
26 >>
27 >>
28 >> Hilarious.
29 >
30 > Isn't that what happened back in 2003/04? I can't recall exactly but there
31 > was some discussion where it was suggested that clients should rsync against
32 > two different mirrors and diff the portage contents (or hashes thereof?), before
33 > accepting the sync result.
34
35 That still doesn't protect you against man-in-the-middle attacks or an
36 attack against the CVS tree (like the recent kernel.org disaster).
37
38 Signing the manifest files is really the only reasonable solution. Good
39 thing there seems to be some progress in that direction:
40 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=360363
41
42 Regards,
43 Florian Philipp

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