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I agree with all of mjo's points below. |
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Nodejs is so bad that I don't think its worth investing |
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your effort into it. There is really very little hope |
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of fixing their crap. This is a case of its not |
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you, its them. |
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But if you do manage to get some sanity into this craziness |
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I might just try nodejs someday <3 |
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Best of luck, |
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Aisha |
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On 1/31/21 7:20 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: |
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> On Sun, 2021-01-31 at 18:42 -0500, Andrew Udvare wrote: |
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>> Our best option is to treat Nodejs stuff the way we treat Rust and Go |
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>> packages. Pretend Nodejs 'binaries' are 'built' statically and |
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>> therefore, grab all the dependencies in the main package ebuild. |
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> The only thing a package manager does for you is that it allows one |
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> person (the Gentoo developer, in this case) to invest a little bit of |
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> time to save everyone else (the Gentoo users) a lot of time. When |
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> software has been packaged correctly, it integrates well with the rest |
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> of the system, gets constant maintenance and security updates, and can |
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> be managed from a central location in a consistent manner. |
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> "Packaging" software like you describe isn't packaging it in this |
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> sense. When you bundle everything together, |
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> 1. Nothing is shared between packages so build time and disk |
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> usage skyrockets. |
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> 2. The number of updates and thus the amount of work required |
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> also skyrockets, for the same reason: when nothing is shared, you |
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> have to update each package whenever a dependency of a dependency |
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> of a dependency... changes. |
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> 3. There are no security updates, ever. If you use anything written |
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> in Rust or Go on Gentoo, or if you use anything that uses |
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> anything written in Rust or Go, or..... it will NEVER get a |
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> security update. No one even bothers looking for security |
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> issues in these languages because the "find a bug then fix it" |
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> algorithm is infeasible. |
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> 4. You do get to do updates with e.g. "emerge -puDN @world", but not |
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> really, because no one is actually updating Gentoo packages every |
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> time a dependency of a dependency changes. |
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> So ultimately, there's little benefit and it introduces security |
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> vulnerabilities to our users who might be better off just using NPM or |
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> whatever (or using software written in a sane language). |
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