[gentoo-user] emerge keeps installing then uninstalling qtbase, qttools, ...

[gentoo-user] emerge keeps installing then uninstalling qtbase, qttools, ...

[Grant Edwards]

For the past 4 days or so, every time I do a sync and then
'emerge -auvND world', portage installs the following:

  qttools
  qtbase
  qttranslations
  xcb-util-cursor

Afterwards, when I do 'emerge --depclean', it uninstalls them.

Any ideas why?  It's getting a little annoying.

--
Grant

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge keeps installing then uninstalling qtbase, qttools, ...

[Grant Edwards]

On 2024-09-03, Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com> wrote:
> For the past 4 days or so, every time I do a sync and then
> 'emerge -auvND world', portage installs the following:
>
>   qttools
>   qtbase
>   qttranslations
>   xcb-util-cursor
>
> Afterwards, when I do 'emerge --depclean', it uninstalls them.
>
> Any ideas why?  It's getting a little annoying.

# emerge -auvNDt world

 * IMPORTANT: 30 news items need reading for repository 'gentoo'.
 * Use eselect news read to view new items.

These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
Dependency resolution took 26.51 s (backtrack: 0/20).

[nomerge       ] dev-qt/qttools-6.7.2:6/6.7.2::gentoo  USE="assistant linguist qdbus widgets (zstd) -clang -designer -distancefieldgenerator -gles2-only -opengl -pixeltool -qdoc -qml -qtattributionsscanner -qtdiag -qtplugininfo -vulkan" LLVM_SLOT="18 -15 -16 -17" 
[nomerge       ]  dev-qt/qtbase-6.7.2-r4:6/6.7.2::gentoo  USE="X concurrent dbus gtk gui libinput network nls sql sqlite ssl udev widgets xml (zstd) -accessibility -brotli -cups -eglfs -evdev -gles2-only -gssapi -icu -journald -libproxy -mysql -oci8 -odbc -opengl -postgres -renderdoc -sctp -syslog -test -tslib -vulkan -wayland" 
[ebuild  N     ]   dev-qt/qttranslations-6.7.2:6/6.7.2::gentoo  0 KiB
[ebuild  N     ]    dev-qt/qttools-6.7.2:6/6.7.2::gentoo  USE="assistant linguist qdbus widgets (zstd) -clang -designer -distancefieldgenerator -gles2-only -opengl -pixeltool -qdoc -qml -qtattributionsscanner -qtdiag -qtplugininfo -vulkan" LLVM_SLOT="18 -15 -16 -17" 0 KiB
[ebuild  N     ]     dev-qt/qtbase-6.7.2-r4:6/6.7.2::gentoo  USE="X concurrent dbus gtk gui libinput network nls sql sqlite ssl udev widgets xml (zstd) -accessibility -brotli -cups -eglfs -evdev -gles2-only -gssapi -icu -journald -libproxy -mysql -oci8 -odbc -opengl -postgres -renderdoc -sctp -syslog -test -tslib -vulkan -wayland" 0 KiB
[ebuild  N     ]      x11-libs/xcb-util-cursor-0.1.5::gentoo  ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)" 0 KiB

Total: 4 packages (4 new), Size of downloads: 0 KiB

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge keeps installing then uninstalling qtbase, qttools, ...

[Matthew Brooks]

While I'm not familiar enough with those packages to know for certain, it sounds like they're probably *build* dependencies for something, but not actual *runtime* dependencies, and so depclean prunes them, and then whenever the package that needs them gets built again they get pulled in again.

I pretty much always use the "--with-bdeps" flag so that all the build dependencies will stay installed and up-to-date for whenever they're next needed.

I'm not *certain* if that's the problem here, but that general behavior sounds like build-deps getting pruned.



On Tue, 3 Sep 2024 02:47:55 -0000 (UTC)
Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2024-09-03, Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com> wrote:
> > For the past 4 days or so, every time I do a sync and then
> > 'emerge -auvND world', portage installs the following:
> >
> >   qttools
> >   qtbase
> >   qttranslations
> >   xcb-util-cursor
> >
> > Afterwards, when I do 'emerge --depclean', it uninstalls them.
> >
> > Any ideas why?  It's getting a little annoying.  
> 
> # emerge -auvNDt world
> 
>  * IMPORTANT: 30 news items need reading for repository 'gentoo'.
>  * Use eselect news read to view new items.
> 
> These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> Dependency resolution took 26.51 s (backtrack: 0/20).
> 
> [nomerge       ] dev-qt/qttools-6.7.2:6/6.7.2::gentoo  USE="assistant linguist qdbus widgets (zstd) -clang -designer -distancefieldgenerator -gles2-only -opengl -pixeltool -qdoc -qml -qtattributionsscanner -qtdiag -qtplugininfo -vulkan" LLVM_SLOT="18 -15 -16 -17" 
> [nomerge       ]  dev-qt/qtbase-6.7.2-r4:6/6.7.2::gentoo  USE="X concurrent dbus gtk gui libinput network nls sql sqlite ssl udev widgets xml (zstd) -accessibility -brotli -cups -eglfs -evdev -gles2-only -gssapi -icu -journald -libproxy -mysql -oci8 -odbc -opengl -postgres -renderdoc -sctp -syslog -test -tslib -vulkan -wayland" 
> [ebuild  N     ]   dev-qt/qttranslations-6.7.2:6/6.7.2::gentoo  0 KiB
> [ebuild  N     ]    dev-qt/qttools-6.7.2:6/6.7.2::gentoo  USE="assistant linguist qdbus widgets (zstd) -clang -designer -distancefieldgenerator -gles2-only -opengl -pixeltool -qdoc -qml -qtattributionsscanner -qtdiag -qtplugininfo -vulkan" LLVM_SLOT="18 -15 -16 -17" 0 KiB
> [ebuild  N     ]     dev-qt/qtbase-6.7.2-r4:6/6.7.2::gentoo  USE="X concurrent dbus gtk gui libinput network nls sql sqlite ssl udev widgets xml (zstd) -accessibility -brotli -cups -eglfs -evdev -gles2-only -gssapi -icu -journald -libproxy -mysql -oci8 -odbc -opengl -postgres -renderdoc -sctp -syslog -test -tslib -vulkan -wayland" 0 KiB
> [ebuild  N     ]      x11-libs/xcb-util-cursor-0.1.5::gentoo  ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)" 0 KiB
> 
> Total: 4 packages (4 new), Size of downloads: 0 KiB
> 
> 
> 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge keeps installing then uninstalling qtbase, qttools, ...

[Matthew Brooks]

Actually, looking more closely at the emerge man pages, it says that --with-bdeps is already automatically supplied for depclean, so that's probably not the issue after all. My apologies.

It might be worth seeing what a full update of world, with the --emptytree flag says (though without actually doing the rebuild). Sometimes including that will notice inconsistencies that a regular emerge doesn't spot.



On Tue,  3 Sep 2024 17:28:31 +0000
Matthew Brooks <matthewfbrooks@posteo.net> wrote:

> While I'm not familiar enough with those packages to know for certain, it sounds like they're probably *build* dependencies for something, but not actual *runtime* dependencies, and so depclean prunes them, and then whenever the package that needs them gets built again they get pulled in again.
> 
> I pretty much always use the "--with-bdeps" flag so that all the build dependencies will stay installed and up-to-date for whenever they're next needed.
> 
> I'm not *certain* if that's the problem here, but that general behavior sounds like build-deps getting pruned.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 3 Sep 2024 02:47:55 -0000 (UTC)
> Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On 2024-09-03, Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com> wrote:  
> > > For the past 4 days or so, every time I do a sync and then
> > > 'emerge -auvND world', portage installs the following:
> > >
> > >   qttools
> > >   qtbase
> > >   qttranslations
> > >   xcb-util-cursor
> > >
> > > Afterwards, when I do 'emerge --depclean', it uninstalls them.
> > >
> > > Any ideas why?  It's getting a little annoying.    
> > 
> > # emerge -auvNDt world
> > 
> >  * IMPORTANT: 30 news items need reading for repository 'gentoo'.
> >  * Use eselect news read to view new items.
> > 
> > These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
> > 
> > Calculating dependencies... done!
> > Dependency resolution took 26.51 s (backtrack: 0/20).
> > 
> > [nomerge       ] dev-qt/qttools-6.7.2:6/6.7.2::gentoo  USE="assistant linguist qdbus widgets (zstd) -clang -designer -distancefieldgenerator -gles2-only -opengl -pixeltool -qdoc -qml -qtattributionsscanner -qtdiag -qtplugininfo -vulkan" LLVM_SLOT="18 -15 -16 -17" 
> > [nomerge       ]  dev-qt/qtbase-6.7.2-r4:6/6.7.2::gentoo  USE="X concurrent dbus gtk gui libinput network nls sql sqlite ssl udev widgets xml (zstd) -accessibility -brotli -cups -eglfs -evdev -gles2-only -gssapi -icu -journald -libproxy -mysql -oci8 -odbc -opengl -postgres -renderdoc -sctp -syslog -test -tslib -vulkan -wayland" 
> > [ebuild  N     ]   dev-qt/qttranslations-6.7.2:6/6.7.2::gentoo  0 KiB
> > [ebuild  N     ]    dev-qt/qttools-6.7.2:6/6.7.2::gentoo  USE="assistant linguist qdbus widgets (zstd) -clang -designer -distancefieldgenerator -gles2-only -opengl -pixeltool -qdoc -qml -qtattributionsscanner -qtdiag -qtplugininfo -vulkan" LLVM_SLOT="18 -15 -16 -17" 0 KiB
> > [ebuild  N     ]     dev-qt/qtbase-6.7.2-r4:6/6.7.2::gentoo  USE="X concurrent dbus gtk gui libinput network nls sql sqlite ssl udev widgets xml (zstd) -accessibility -brotli -cups -eglfs -evdev -gles2-only -gssapi -icu -journald -libproxy -mysql -oci8 -odbc -opengl -postgres -renderdoc -sctp -syslog -test -tslib -vulkan -wayland" 0 KiB
> > [ebuild  N     ]      x11-libs/xcb-util-cursor-0.1.5::gentoo  ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)" 0 KiB
> > 
> > Total: 4 packages (4 new), Size of downloads: 0 KiB
> > 
> > 
> >   
> 
> 

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge keeps installing then uninstalling qtbase, qttools, ...

[Grant Edwards]

On 2024-09-03, Matthew Brooks <matthewfbrooks@posteo.net> wrote:

> It might be worth seeing what a full update of world, with the
> --emptytree flag says (though without actually doing the
> rebuild). Sometimes including that will notice inconsistencies that
> a regular emerge doesn't spot.

Thanks, I'll try that next time that machine is up.

I'm not sure, but I think this may have started when I installed ksnip
from the guru overlay:

  https://gpo.zugaina.org/x11-misc/ksnip

It has Qt 5 deps (and there might not be any other Qt apps on that
machine).  But, it's Qt 6 stuff that keeps getting
installed/uninstalled. So that doesn't really make sense either.

--
Grant

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge keeps installing then uninstalling qtbase, qttools, ...

[Grant Edwards]

On 2024-09-03, Matthew Brooks <matthewfbrooks@posteo.net> wrote:

> It might be worth seeing what a full update of world, with the
> --emptytree flag says (though without actually doing the
> rebuild). Sometimes including that will notice inconsistencies that
> a regular emerge doesn't spot.

I don't see anything.  It still wants to install those 4 "new" packages.

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge keeps installing then uninstalling qtbase, qttools, ...

[Grant Edwards]

On 2024-09-03, Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2024-09-03, Matthew Brooks <matthewfbrooks@posteo.net> wrote:
>
>> It might be worth seeing what a full update of world, with the
>> --emptytree flag says (though without actually doing the
>> rebuild). Sometimes including that will notice inconsistencies that
>> a regular emerge doesn't spot.
>
> I don't see anything.  It still wants to install those 4 "new" packages.

I uninstalled ksnip and then did a --depclean (which uninstalled 8-10
packages).  Now portage no longer wants to repeatedly install and
uninstall those four packages.  :/

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge keeps installing then uninstalling qtbase, qttools, ...

[Grant Edwards]

On 2024-09-03, Matthew Brooks <matthewfbrooks@posteo.net> wrote:

> While I'm not familiar enough with those packages to know for
> certain, it sounds like they're probably *build* dependencies for
> something, but not actual *runtime* dependencies, and so depclean
> prunes them, and then whenever the package that needs them gets
> built again they get pulled in again.

I don't think so. Nothing else is getting built.

I can alternately do -auvND and --dpeclean all day, and only those
four get installed and then uninstalled.

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge keeps installing then uninstalling qtbase, qttools, ...

[Grant Edwards]

On 2024-09-03, Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2024-09-03, Matthew Brooks <matthewfbrooks@posteo.net> wrote:
>
>> While I'm not familiar enough with those packages to know for
>> certain, it sounds like they're probably *build* dependencies for
>> something, [...]
>
> I don't think so. Nothing else is getting built.
>
> I can alternately do -auvND and --dpeclean all day, and only those
> four get installed and then uninstalled.

Just to clarify, that's not doing any --sync operations at all.  I'm
simply alternating --depclean and -auvND world.